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How does this individual talk and look like didn't subvert my exceptions (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 4 years ago by SupremeReader 4 years ago by SupremeReader +39 / -0
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– Norenia 33 points 4 years ago +33 / -0

Why is "subversion" a good thing? Why is "change" a good thing (especially when it doesn't improve jack shit)?

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– SarcasticRidley 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Why is "change" a good thing

That's the best part: it usually isn't. A change in any system usually results in either catastrophic effects, or the system becoming unrecognizable compared to its former state.

Puberty is a change. Once you go through it, you are fundamentally different than you were before it.

The Great Depression was a change. Before, things were going great, the economy was booming. After, people wiped their asses with money because it was worthless.

The fall of the Soviet Union was a change. Before, it was a repressive regime that spread evil throughout the world. After the collapse, it reverted to just being a bunch of slavic countries with lackluster economies.

Evolution is a change. Some creatures evolved to be more efficient hunters, and others evolved to be less efficient. Guess which ones died out? Hell, Pandas are really only alive right now because we think they're cute.

Then there's climate change. The dinosaurs died out because of a cataclysmic change in their climate. Not the oceans getting a bit warmer, mind you, but the sun literally being blocked out by ash.

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– deleted 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0
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– BandageBandolier 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Improving things is hard and they refuse to accept they're too mediocre to pull that off, so they just pretend changing things is the same.

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– SupremeReader [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Most of post-Soviet countries aren't Slavic. The only ones are Russia (mostly, but this is changing), Ukraine, Belarus.

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– Smith1980 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

I despise the word subversion. Ever since TLJ

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– deleted 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0
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– Adamrises 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Because in theory it means that it isn't predictable. Its the end goal of the Shayamalan "twist" beyond just that final moment of twisting.

Which, again in theory, can be a great thing. The hero just getting domed by a random bullet during an action scene can dramatically raise the stakes and make the whole thing a lot more tense because it subverts the plot armor we expect.

However, when they use it it means "deliberately leading you on to flip the switch after like we didn't."

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– Shill4Hire 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

At this point, the only subverting my expectations that is possible is if they actually made good content. That'd subvert my expectations real good!

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– Shill4Hire 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Their skill level is so low, that imitation or mimickry would fall flat, and be clear it was an inferior product. Arbitrary negative changes allows them to blame their lack of talent, effort, and forethought instead on the asinine changes.

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– NeoDragoon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

When it's done well, you get things like the A Song of Ice and Fire series of books, where the author takes the tropes of a genre and refuses to follow them. However, you then have the flip side, like the trope of actually finishing the series.

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– FrostedCricketFlakes 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

The book about Reach didn't violate the game's story

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– Fartinggoose 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Technically it did.. Reach the game and Fall of reach contradict each other.

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– FrostedCricketFlakes 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

The book was made years before the Reach game.

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– SarcasticRidley 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

If anything Reach contradicts the book.

Spartan III soldiers who aren't wearing SPI armor, on Reach, with Covenant slipping past Reach's defenses without them noticing, and most importantly, the Pillar of Autumn wasn't even on the surface of Reach during the battle according to the book.

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– Adamrises 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Your ESL title did subvert my expectations though.

With love.

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– GoofTroop186 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

If any of you aren’t certain I can confirm that the tv show has zero to do with the story in the books.

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– Beardicus 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Hey! It's got a guy named Master Chief and aliens... good enough.

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– BidenLikesMiners 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

And master chief is a VIRGIN.... WHERE ARE YA GOIN??? I DIDNT EVEN TELL YOU ABOUT HIM FUCKING A SPY YET

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– Fartinggoose 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

He never stated it had to do with the books. He said it has references to them, which is true with characters like Soren. It does reference Halo lore but it's such a bad series a token reference here and there doesn't make a difference.

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– GoofTroop186 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I feel like the tone of their post implies that you’d “get” what’s going on in the show if you’d followed the books but you’re not wrong either

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– Fartinggoose 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Well lets be honest, very little goes on in the series. Other than Halsey every character is exactly where they were in the episode they were introduced. It's very hard to not follow a series where nothing happens.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– Fartinggoose 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Did any one say it was canon? I said the guy's telling the truth on the lore part. It does pull from the lore for naming things.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– Fartinggoose 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Like Soren being a run away Spartan? Or does that not count?

Comic books have pulled off far worse in the past and continue to do so.

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– LauriThorne 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Starship Troopers is the peak of bad adaptations.

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– bloodguard 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

They know it's tanking horribly and taking "the message" down with it.

And just like Kevin Smith and Seth Rogen they're doing the hysterical "we're not subverting it even though we said we were" dance when they figure out that the people they were pandering to were never going to watch it in the first place.

And they've pissed off the people that would have watched it if they hadn't fucked it up.

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– realerfunction 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

and you contradicted that same lore.

kick a stool.

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– Brennus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I see a lot of cats in her future

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– BidenLikesMiners 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

another ugly tranny ruining gaming

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