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TerpenoidTester 18 points ago +19 / -1

I've reached the point where I just straight up don't believe these stories.

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current_horror 13 points ago +14 / -1

We’ve been skeptical of the very same people telling monstrous lies about literally everything for the last 7.5 years. No reason to trust them now

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AntonioOfVenice 10 points ago +11 / -1

I have no doubt that children are being killed. That happens in every war, and it's one of the many reasons why war is something that is best avoided.

But when you only hear of atrocities by one side, either it's saints vs. devils, or you are on the receiving end of war propaganda.

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NoEyesNoGroin 3 points ago +4 / -1

If you're getting your news about Ukraine from the news media you're retarded, but if you're deluding yourself about what's happening in Ukraine because the news media are lying scum, you're also retarded.

There's copious video evidence coming out of Ukraine on Telegram and Twitter all the time and yes, Russia did a mass rocket attack on a city block yesterday and yes, video showed lots of dead civilians and injured ones with missing limbs.

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current_horror 4 points ago +6 / -2

That’s what happens when your military chooses option 3: embed yourselves in the civilian population.

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NoEyesNoGroin -3 points ago +1 / -4

Russian bootlicking noises

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AntonioOfVenice 10 points ago +11 / -1

Yes, this is awful. War is hell.

Now do the Children's Memorial in the Donetsk People's Republic.

You will never hear a word about it, because the killings were done by a vassal of the US.

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Unknownsailor 5 points ago +5 / -0

Damned right.

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Kaarous 4 points ago +6 / -2

Is this like that picture of Zelensky "fighting on the front lines" where the photo was actually from last year? Or all of those ridiculous piles of lies about Syria?

Not buying it, not for a second. If the media says it, at all, that is reason enough to suspect it to be untrue.

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K1nglurk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Honestly I've seen a couple of vids of air bombardment on a residence and a school (fucking not cool) in Ukraine. I understand Russia had agreements (and I agree all contracts need to be respected) and people reneged on that deal, but fuck man... that some bullshit. I know where I stand in this and yes I understand war and casualties but these people I saw were just chilling and then boom.. come on.

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Assassin47 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep that's why I fucking hate war and the state in general. Individuals are pawns to provide the illusion of collective will, while it imposes on us, drains us of our labor, and kills us when we get in the way. The state is an organized gang.

An actual leader with strength would find another way.

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AntonioOfVenice 1 point ago +2 / -1

I don't know what footage you're referring to, but be careful - there's a lot of stuff that is commandeered from other conflicts (and even video games) in order to pretend that it is happening here.

War propaganda gets an easy ride when you have 99% of the media on your side.