It's funny how you, Antonio, and a few others pretend to be tolerant of speech but as soon as it comes to actual far-right ideology the narrative shifts.
No matter how many arguments you lose you're right back to the same thing the day after.
Only reason I say this is, as I said before, you're doing yourself no favors. The far-right is growing whether you like it or not and we are aligned by ideology simply because we are not leftist Bolsheviks. Maligning potential allies because you have a personal grudge with the image of said group given by the media is rather foolish, no?
Don't worry though. The far-right waits with open arms. The pendulum is just about at the apex into far-left nonsense.
The Nazis weren't "far-right". The only "left" and "right" involved was a split within their own ranks, but even the "right" faction wouldn't ever shut up about how socialist they were.
leftist Bolsheviks
People like Goebbels adored them. To him, Lenin was "the greatest man, second only to Hitler".
Today Nazism is considered a far-right position. Ironically almost entirely because of the Nationalism part.
People like Goebbels adored them. To him, "Lenin was the greatest man, second only to Hitler".
Can you source this? Goebbels was a propagandist heart and soul and said different things to different people depending on what he wanted the outcome to be.
Calling them "far-right" was a trick by their leftist rivals against the actual right to associate them with something so widely despised. The German "far-right" were the monarchists (not very popular since the monarchy had been discredited by the conduct of the last Kaiser, who just fled before the war that he had started did even end, and then never returned).
The German "far-right" were the monarchists (not very popular since the monarchy had been discredited by the conduct of the last Kaiser, who just fled before the war that he had started didn't even end, and then never returned).
Plenty of black-supremacists and women-supremacists on the left, a lot more then white-supremacists so is clear that a "supremacist" movement does not need to be on the right, in fact it rarely is.
You're conflating groups and individuals pretty heavily there.
As for what I myself say, what's it matter if you have issues? No one will ever agree completely. On many core issues we are aligned. Why should we be enemies when a common, and much more brutal, enemy stands before us?
Sounds like you are. National socialist. And pro second amendment? I guess if you ignore banning whoever the party claimed was the enemy of the state. Only places you can find arguments that the nazis were pro gun are left leaning sites like salon
Strong traditional family life like Lebensborn. Where they were encouraging young women to have children outside of marriage and if the children were “racially pure” they would then be handed over to the ss to care for and not their parents. Or encourage women of occupied countries to sleep with German officers just to have their children taken from them. Or the 100k-200k children who were kidnapped from Poland. Those deemed pure got stuck with foster parents in Germany and those not were executed.
“Nazi Traditional family life” is shit and anyone who supports it is shit. I’m not interested in fighting against one shitty ideology to replace it with an equally shitty one. Fuck off
I like how I have no idea what a tradcon is, not really interested in any far-right buzz wards.
You've not given a solution. Should kia2 just move again? Return to reddit? I know a lot still visit both reddit and kia2.win but I've closed my account entirely and not planning to create a new one.
We do not have the power to close a .win site and even if we did, censorship would greatly taint the freedom of speech thing the .win is trying out.
On the other-hand the far-right, actual far-right, are unsavory, dangerous and it can potentially bring a lot more attention to .win then we would like. I would not be surprised that it is now on some FBI monitoring list.
There is also the scenario where the site can be used as a stage for an internet censorship bill, "fbi nazis" set up some fake threat and then use that as an excuse to harm everyone by leftist censorship.
I honestly have no solution here, would be nice to not have actual far-right people all together but is anyone surprised that the real far-right is getting popular? There is a reason why the white-supremacists wanted Biden to win. When the left paints anyone opposing immigration as a white-supremacist then at what point will some of them just say fuck it I guess we are white-supremacists now.
You can obviously see a few who are obvious far-right, I've been seeing more of them for the past few days, but other then observing what exactly can we do?
It's funny how you, Antonio, and a few others pretend to be tolerant of speech but as soon as it comes to actual far-right ideology the narrative shifts.
No matter how many arguments you lose you're right back to the same thing the day after.
Only reason I say this is, as I said before, you're doing yourself no favors. The far-right is growing whether you like it or not and we are aligned by ideology simply because we are not leftist Bolsheviks. Maligning potential allies because you have a personal grudge with the image of said group given by the media is rather foolish, no?
Don't worry though. The far-right waits with open arms. The pendulum is just about at the apex into far-left nonsense.
The Nazis weren't "far-right". The only "left" and "right" involved was a split within their own ranks, but even the "right" faction wouldn't ever shut up about how socialist they were.
People like Goebbels adored them. To him, Lenin was "the greatest man, second only to Hitler".
I'm talking about now, not then.
Today Nazism is considered a far-right position. Ironically almost entirely because of the Nationalism part.
Can you source this? Goebbels was a propagandist heart and soul and said different things to different people depending on what he wanted the outcome to be.
Calling them "far-right" was a trick by their leftist rivals against the actual right to associate them with something so widely despised. The German "far-right" were the monarchists (not very popular since the monarchy had been discredited by the conduct of the last Kaiser, who just fled before the war that he had started did even end, and then never returned).
You're still doing it.
I'm talking about TODAY.
Nazism is a "right-side" ideology TODAY.
Stop with the word games.
Wasn't Hindenburg a monarchist?
Link please for this attempt to slander Goebbels.
I never said that that was a bad thing.
Plenty of black-supremacists and women-supremacists on the left, a lot more then white-supremacists so is clear that a "supremacist" movement does not need to be on the right, in fact it rarely is.
I have issues with what you say, not with what the media says about you.
You're conflating groups and individuals pretty heavily there.
As for what I myself say, what's it matter if you have issues? No one will ever agree completely. On many core issues we are aligned. Why should we be enemies when a common, and much more brutal, enemy stands before us?
That's fine, but let's then focus on defeating the common enemy rather than say, bash the Jews.
Nazis aren’t right wing just another shit flavor of Marxism
Nationalist, anti-LGBTQ, pro second amendment...
Marxist?
Are you fucking retarded?
Sounds like you are. National socialist. And pro second amendment? I guess if you ignore banning whoever the party claimed was the enemy of the state. Only places you can find arguments that the nazis were pro gun are left leaning sites like salon
The NatSocs had less in common with Marxism than does the current-day USA.
Natsocs
Marxism and current-day globohomo USA
Strong traditional family life like Lebensborn. Where they were encouraging young women to have children outside of marriage and if the children were “racially pure” they would then be handed over to the ss to care for and not their parents. Or encourage women of occupied countries to sleep with German officers just to have their children taken from them. Or the 100k-200k children who were kidnapped from Poland. Those deemed pure got stuck with foster parents in Germany and those not were executed.
“Nazi Traditional family life” is shit and anyone who supports it is shit. I’m not interested in fighting against one shitty ideology to replace it with an equally shitty one. Fuck off
We are.
No need to be shy about it.
Firing squad innawoods, not fanciful Rube Goldberg machine. No need to waste bullets either, industrial cattle skull rods are reusable.
But no.
The ultimate victory would be a quick rout of the Bolsheviks and then a slow and methodical movement of culture over a few generations.
There's no reason to execute thought criminals. That has been shown to be wholly ineffective and counterproductive.
Why would we do that?
We pretty much agree on the role of women in society.
Also not a big fan of taxes.
"The Bureaucracy expands to meet the needs of the expanding Bureaucracy."
?
That is pretty unrelated to my post.
When did I ever talk about "women's honor?"
I'm fine with Stormfags as long as they are useful.
So you like yourself, and no one else.
Sounds like a winning coalition.
I like how I have no idea what a tradcon is, not really interested in any far-right buzz wards. You've not given a solution. Should kia2 just move again? Return to reddit? I know a lot still visit both reddit and kia2.win but I've closed my account entirely and not planning to create a new one.
We do not have the power to close a .win site and even if we did, censorship would greatly taint the freedom of speech thing the .win is trying out.
On the other-hand the far-right, actual far-right, are unsavory, dangerous and it can potentially bring a lot more attention to .win then we would like. I would not be surprised that it is now on some FBI monitoring list.
I honestly have no solution here, would be nice to not have actual far-right people all together but is anyone surprised that the real far-right is getting popular? There is a reason why the white-supremacists wanted Biden to win. When the left paints anyone opposing immigration as a white-supremacist then at what point will some of them just say fuck it I guess we are white-supremacists now.
You can obviously see a few who are obvious far-right, I've been seeing more of them for the past few days, but other then observing what exactly can we do?