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posted 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 +16 / -0
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– Killroyomega 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

The Nazis weren't "far-right".

I'm talking about now, not then.

Today Nazism is considered a far-right position. Ironically almost entirely because of the Nationalism part.

People like Goebbels adored them. To him, "Lenin was the greatest man, second only to Hitler".

Can you source this? Goebbels was a propagandist heart and soul and said different things to different people depending on what he wanted the outcome to be.

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– SupremeReader 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Calling them "far-right" was a trick by their leftist rivals against the actual right to associate them with something so widely despised. The German "far-right" were the monarchists (not very popular since the monarchy had been discredited by the conduct of the last Kaiser, who just fled before the war that he had started did even end, and then never returned).

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– Killroyomega 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

You're still doing it.

I'm talking about TODAY.

Nazism is a "right-side" ideology TODAY.

Stop with the word games.

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– SupremeReader 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

So why can't you guys find anything else to associate with than a disastrously failed and long defunct socialist movement from, as you say, a century ago?

Even Mussolini was inspired by something that lasted way way longer than Hitler's "1,000-year Reich" of 12 years. And even after it did crash and burn even the people who did the burning (the Germans) would come to regret it, and so they would wear the Roman skinsuit to self-identify as the "Holy Roman Empire" (aka the Reich). You're wearing a Nazi skinsuit now, but they were a failure.

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– Killroyomega 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Nah the Nazi stuff is more like a badge on a Nascar-style sticker suit.

I like many of the ideas, but it's not all that encompasses my thoughts nor close to the majority.

Hitler's "1,000-year Reich" of 12 years. And even after it did crash and burn

Again, that's pretty disingenuous.

The NSDAP led Germany would probably have lasted many a year longer if they didn't draw the ire of international finance.

Even had Hitler not invaded Poland war would have been inevitable.

So why can't you guys find anything else to associate with than a disastrously failed and long defunct socialist movement from, as you say, a century ago?

As said above, I can and I do.

I just always find it so fascinating how everything about Nazism must under common social contention become a discussion of how bad it was without ever really discussing WHAT it was.

In my eyes there's no negative association whatsoever. Aspersions are cast blindly without any real appeal. Muh hoilocaust pulls a nice big blanket over the whole affair.

Personally, I blame the attacks on Nazism for the fall of Nationalism as a political concept. That is why I push for it to be discussed so much. Once that taboo is broken it becomes much more likely to have Nationalism rekindled.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The German "far-right" were the monarchists (not very popular since the monarchy had been discredited by the conduct of the last Kaiser, who just fled before the war that he had started didn't even end, and then never returned).

Wasn't Hindenburg a monarchist?

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

muh Kaiser

Hindenburg was only elected by running against Hitler.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What about the first time when he wasn't bothered by that Bohemian corporal?

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– TheWestYearZero 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Link please for this attempt to slander Goebbels.

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– Killroyomega 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I never said that that was a bad thing.

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