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posted 4 years ago by AzureAceStarburst69 4 years ago by AzureAceStarburst69 +27 / -0
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– Kaarous 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

Because they are pedophiles in disguise. The same as John Money, the "doctor" who invented their nonsense idea in the first place.

Don't expect their ideas to make sense, because they aren't intended to make sense. These ideas aren't being offered in good faith for discussion, they are the shrieks of demons who want to devour your children.

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– Kaarous 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I think the hang up is that there are no drugs/therapy that work.

This is because the professed problem is a front.

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– Yashimata 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I think there is a small number of people who would manage to benefit from transitioning after ruling everything else out, but it's a SMALL number and this "trans craze" is gonna fuck up a lot of people in the long term.

Pretty sure that's how it is for the one legitimate trans person I know. It was a last-ditch attempt for a solution that happened to work. Absolutely hates the trenders more than anyone else I know.

As for me, if I had to choose between letting the crazy leftist doctors fuck with my body or my brain to try to match them up, I'll pick the body. Fixing brain problems is hard enough when we do have an idea what we're doing, and if the transitioning/fix doesn't work out, fixing my body from their drugs seems way easier than fixing whatever the drugs might do to my mind.

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– SR388-SAX 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Fixing brain problems is hard enough when we do have an idea what we're doing, and if the transitioning/fix doesn't work out, fixing my body from their drugs seems way easier than fixing whatever the drugs might do to my mind.

Probably better to not take any drugs whatsoever, and definitely better to not get any surgeries. If you think that detransitioning your body is somehow "easier" than fixing your mind, you should listen to some detrans stories.

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– ArtemisFoul 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I think the hang up is that there are no drugs/therapy that work.

IIRC, for the 0.1% of troons that actually have gender dysphoria, antipsychotic medication like what we give to schizos who hear voices has been shown to help. I've seen a study a while back, but it's pretty buried for obvious reasons.

For the other 999/1000, I prescribe a healthy dose of bullying.

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– RondoOBlongo 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Mentally? No, it's dumber than that, gender was coined as a "social construct". Eunuchs are considered a "third gender" by "queer studies". They use gender and sex interchangeably to make it seem more legit, but it's all sophistry.

Sex is binary and has a biological background (chromosomes, gonads, hormones, and genitals), you can't "identify yourself as having certain chromosomes", you have them or you don't. Gender encompasses things like: gender roles, gender identity, gender expression and has a social background, which means its criteria is fluctuating all the time. It originated from feminist theory since it framed women as a sociopolitical class, resulting in gender and queer studies

The mismatch was called "gender identity disorder", it was replaced by "gender dysphoria" in the DSM-5, under the following argument

DSM-5 aims to avoid stigma and ensure clinical care for individuals who see and feel themselves to be a different gender than their assigned gender. It replaces the diagnostic name 'gender identity disorder' with 'gender dysphoria', as well as makes other important clarifications in the criteria.

Note that they also changed the definition so that "not all transgender or gender diverse people experience dysphoria".

There are treatments for gender dysphoria, there aren't for "queer" people since is considered an identity, that's why they have to present it as a discrimination problem, the catch is: you can make it all up and people can't disprove you or else they'd be called bigots and be deplatformed

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

it makes no sense

For once, we agree. You could just have stopped there, as there is no end to the irrationality of the modern world.

Orwell was way ahead of his time with his Doublethink. Abortion is both "women's rights" and "birthing bodies' rights". They have to satisfy both the hairy autogynephiliac with delusions that he is a woman, in which case being a hairy neckbeard does not preclude one from being a woman, and also the people who want to amputate their genitals and breasts, in which case that is 'gender affirmation', which is a PC term for 'gender reassignment', which is a PC term for 'sex change', which is a PC term for getting mutilated.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Believing autogynephilia is as crazy as believing the Holocaust death toll was caused by suicides.

Always with the reasonable and level-headed comparisons, you. It's real whether you like it or not.

I will find that damn link I mentioned last time I argued this. It proves it beyond all doubt that it's fully related to women's power in a culture. They didn't have internet. They didn't have Jews. They didn't have porn. Every single argument defending women falls apart at this article.

Me doubt it.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It was a bit of an out there comparison, but I don't think it was that far off.

It's out in orbit somewhere.

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– Knife-TotingRat 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Maybe in part, the introspection needed to help deal with ID issues requires quiet time alone with one's own thoughts, and perhaps a lot of reading and watching/listening to stories. But most people spend most of their time with "friends" who just fog their thinking and lead them onto terrible paths.

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

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