Imagine being on the side of Apple and its monopolistic practices. I thought the past few years had bred the free market fundamentalism out of the right, especially when it comes to these tech monopolies, but right-wingers just love getting beatings.
Goddamn right. No single person alive today has seen anything resembling real capitalism where it isn't the bitch of government intervention and central planning. We ARE the CCP economically and most people are just completely blind while they jerk off over "muh mixed economy".
Rofl. "Monopoly". I don't even know a single person who uses Apple computers. Even my boomer parents have switched to Android because even they couldn't rationalize paying such an insane amount.
A completely irrelevant company that only idiots purchase from. Imagine thinking I'm on the side of Apple just because I don't like the federal government issuing diktat.
Couching your ideas and arguments behind a "majority" will win you no love from me. The majority, are retarded. For me, Apple is 100% irrelevant and they always have been which is why using the word "monopoly" just doesn't make any sort of sense. How have I been using non-apple phones and computers my entire life if they have a monopoly?
That's a strange way of saying that Apple should not abuse its market position to squeeze even more profits out of customers and other companies.
Apple should do whatever the fuck it wants and I'm not going to cheer for more central planning and economic interventionism. If you have slaved yourself to their awful products I...hope you enjoy it? As much as I disagree with buying their trash, I'm glad people are free to make that choice.
How have I been using non-apple phones and computers my entire life if they have a monopoly?
Same reason Microsoft had a monopoly even though Apple, Linux and UNIX existed. Both the Apple Store and the Google App store are monopolies, pushed by the companies on phones.
Apple should do whatever the fuck it wants
Looks like it will take more beatings and abuse of power by these tech companies before people come to any sort of realization.
Same reason Microsoft had a monopoly even though Apple, Linux and UNIX existed. Both the Apple Store and the Google App store are monopolies, pushed by the companies on phones.
Just because the Government says it's a monopoly, doesn't mean I agree at all. Microsoft never had a monopoly, there were ALWAYS other choices. You can call these app stores monopolies all you want, I'll be happily downloading things from https://www.f-droid.org/, a free alternative. I don't remotely see whatever monopoly you claim exists.
Looks like it will take more beatings and abuse of power by these tech companies before people come to any sort of realization.
What beatings?! Using Apple is 100% voluntary. Nothing Apple has done has ever impacted me in anyway. The only "beatings" I see are equivalent to this activity:
Microsoft never had a monopoly, there were ALWAYS other choices.
How absurd. Microsoft dominated the market, and abused its position to try to hook people on its other products. This sort of dogmatic nonsense is why people allege that the right hates government boot, but loves corporate boot.
You can call these app stores monopolies all you want, I'll be happily downloading things
Great! And how many other people have even the technical know-how to go and jailbreak their iPhone and download apps in a way that open ups their phone to even more viruses and malware than otherwise?
Nothing Apple has done has ever impacted me in anyway.
This is seriously delusional. It's like saying that Twitter has not impacted you, even though these companies wield immense power over who is allowed to say what.
But if Epic were allowed to run their own store on iOS, so would the wrongthinkers.
I don't understand whatever point you're making here.
If they really wanted to "run a store on iOS" there's literally nothing stopping them. As much as I despise apple, it's still a computer that you can write code on and release binaries for. Apple should have the right to ban whatever the fuck they want out of their App store. If you're such a cuck that you're going to chain yourself to the distribution tools of your business rivals, well, that sounds fucking retarded and like you're giving power over yourself in a way that you don't need to.
They could produce their app launcher and a store and fucking fornite and it can all work on OSX with zero issues. But the idea that Apple then has to be forced to sell it inside of their application? Fuck no I don't approve of that in anyway at all.
Fascinating, I didn't know that, the last time I was forced to help someone with their Mac the OS was still capable of executing arbitrary binaries.
Well, if they want to downgrade from selling actual computers to selling something like a console, that's their stupid and ignorant prerogative and I still don't approve of the government telling them they can't.
I'm completely fine with Win10S, in as much as I am "fine" with Windows, meaning I am completely unaffected by it. If people really want to buy these awful products because to them they aren't awful, godspeed.
Tim Sweeney is known to hate Linux, enough so that he thinks doing anything for it is a waste of time and resources. Even if it would be trivial to provide Linux support, I would never bank on him green lighting it.
Yes. Epic dared to challenge the golden boy Steam.
People LOVE monopolies because corporations managed to get them personally invested (emotionally and financially) into their little walled-garden eco systems.
I won't give Epic money but I will buy from other store platforms like GOG, Itch.io, Indie Gala, and DLsite. Also Valve provides more with their platform such as forums, user reviews, easy access to modding, and several other things.
Many gamers have all their eggs in one basket. They have do defend Steam no matter what because they'll lose all their games when Steam goes tits up.They are so heavily invested in that platform they have to keep convincing themselves it was the right choice.
IMHO all this griping about exclusives, Tencent, etc. is primarily because they are afraid a big competitor could threaten Steam, and a threat to Steam is directly a threat to their libraries and decisions.
But Epic is pretty cool. I got Civ VI for free. The less money I have to give to these corporate vultures, the better.
Even if Epic were not cool. Competition is better than no competition. If you are an Intel or AMD fanboy, and you want the other to go out of business, you are a moron.
I mean hope that Intel goes out of business because you like AMD. If Intel goes out of business, then AMD will be a monopolist and you'll get crap and worse crap as CPUs. The point is that competition is good.
Intel has done worse things than tweet out stupid slogans by an interne.
This is Tim still crying like a fucking bitch over the App Store? Or something new?
Imagine being on the side of Apple and its monopolistic practices. I thought the past few years had bred the free market fundamentalism out of the right, especially when it comes to these tech monopolies, but right-wingers just love getting beatings.
We’ve never had a free market
Goddamn right. No single person alive today has seen anything resembling real capitalism where it isn't the bitch of government intervention and central planning. We ARE the CCP economically and most people are just completely blind while they jerk off over "muh mixed economy".
Rofl. "Monopoly". I don't even know a single person who uses Apple computers. Even my boomer parents have switched to Android because even they couldn't rationalize paying such an insane amount.
A completely irrelevant company that only idiots purchase from. Imagine thinking I'm on the side of Apple just because I don't like the federal government issuing diktat.
Isnt' a majority of phones sold in the US made by Apple?
That's a strange way of saying that Apple should not abuse its market position to squeeze even more profits out of customers and other companies.
Couching your ideas and arguments behind a "majority" will win you no love from me. The majority, are retarded. For me, Apple is 100% irrelevant and they always have been which is why using the word "monopoly" just doesn't make any sort of sense. How have I been using non-apple phones and computers my entire life if they have a monopoly?
Apple should do whatever the fuck it wants and I'm not going to cheer for more central planning and economic interventionism. If you have slaved yourself to their awful products I...hope you enjoy it? As much as I disagree with buying their trash, I'm glad people are free to make that choice.
Same reason Microsoft had a monopoly even though Apple, Linux and UNIX existed. Both the Apple Store and the Google App store are monopolies, pushed by the companies on phones.
Looks like it will take more beatings and abuse of power by these tech companies before people come to any sort of realization.
Just because the Government says it's a monopoly, doesn't mean I agree at all. Microsoft never had a monopoly, there were ALWAYS other choices. You can call these app stores monopolies all you want, I'll be happily downloading things from https://www.f-droid.org/, a free alternative. I don't remotely see whatever monopoly you claim exists.
What beatings?! Using Apple is 100% voluntary. Nothing Apple has done has ever impacted me in anyway. The only "beatings" I see are equivalent to this activity:
https://cdn1.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/images/methode/2018/03/30/6eb26174-33d7-11e8-9019-a420e6317de0_image_hires_130823.JPG
Meaning a bunch of blind people whipping themselves all by their own choices. Such horrible "beatings".
How absurd. Microsoft dominated the market, and abused its position to try to hook people on its other products. This sort of dogmatic nonsense is why people allege that the right hates government boot, but loves corporate boot.
Great! And how many other people have even the technical know-how to go and jailbreak their iPhone and download apps in a way that open ups their phone to even more viruses and malware than otherwise?
This is seriously delusional. It's like saying that Twitter has not impacted you, even though these companies wield immense power over who is allowed to say what.
I don't understand whatever point you're making here.
If they really wanted to "run a store on iOS" there's literally nothing stopping them. As much as I despise apple, it's still a computer that you can write code on and release binaries for. Apple should have the right to ban whatever the fuck they want out of their App store. If you're such a cuck that you're going to chain yourself to the distribution tools of your business rivals, well, that sounds fucking retarded and like you're giving power over yourself in a way that you don't need to.
They could produce their app launcher and a store and fucking fornite and it can all work on OSX with zero issues. But the idea that Apple then has to be forced to sell it inside of their application? Fuck no I don't approve of that in anyway at all.
Fascinating, I didn't know that, the last time I was forced to help someone with their Mac the OS was still capable of executing arbitrary binaries.
Well, if they want to downgrade from selling actual computers to selling something like a console, that's their stupid and ignorant prerogative and I still don't approve of the government telling them they can't.
I'm completely fine with Win10S, in as much as I am "fine" with Windows, meaning I am completely unaffected by it. If people really want to buy these awful products because to them they aren't awful, godspeed.
"Monopolistic practices" isn't accurate, but insert "anti-customer practices" absolutely is.
Apple isn't a monopoly. They just have a customer base that they've psychologically abused into being mindless consumers.
Why is this downvoted? Do people hate EPIC so much that they will side with Apple?
Tim Sweeney is known to hate Linux, enough so that he thinks doing anything for it is a waste of time and resources. Even if it would be trivial to provide Linux support, I would never bank on him green lighting it.
Yes. Epic dared to challenge the golden boy Steam.
People LOVE monopolies because corporations managed to get them personally invested (emotionally and financially) into their little walled-garden eco systems.
I won't give Epic money but I will buy from other store platforms like GOG, Itch.io, Indie Gala, and DLsite. Also Valve provides more with their platform such as forums, user reviews, easy access to modding, and several other things.
Because it holds their games hostage.
Many gamers have all their eggs in one basket. They have do defend Steam no matter what because they'll lose all their games when Steam goes tits up.They are so heavily invested in that platform they have to keep convincing themselves it was the right choice.
IMHO all this griping about exclusives, Tencent, etc. is primarily because they are afraid a big competitor could threaten Steam, and a threat to Steam is directly a threat to their libraries and decisions.
And many, many other things.
But Epic is pretty cool. I got Civ VI for free. The less money I have to give to these corporate vultures, the better.
Even if Epic were not cool. Competition is better than no competition. If you are an Intel or AMD fanboy, and you want the other to go out of business, you are a moron.
I mean hope that Intel goes out of business because you like AMD. If Intel goes out of business, then AMD will be a monopolist and you'll get crap and worse crap as CPUs. The point is that competition is good.
Intel has done worse things than tweet out stupid slogans by an interne.