Sports games are literally the worst when it comes to predatory industry bullshit like microtransactions, ad abuse, dlc abuse, and rehashes, and yet the retarded sports game fans keep eating that garbage up.
They are nothing but cucks who have contributed to the degradation of the gaming industry by refusing to boycott shitty business practices.
Now THERE'S a name I haven't heard in a long time. I'd love an updated version of that game...of o didn't know that they'd fuck it up.
I see what you did there.
The problem is that people who tend to play that shit ONLY play that shit, so they don't have the perspective of experiencing business practices that aren't abusive. You see the same problem with people (usually women) who ONLY play The Sims, particularly The Sims 4. Have you seen how much these women will spend on new hair styles for their Sim? I say this as someone who sunk thousands of hours into The Sims 3, which was at least a complete game without the microtransactions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_packs_for_The_Sims_3
The completeness of a game is what you make of it. Having the option to buy a new hairstyle is stupid, pointless, and arguably predatory, but it doesn't mean the base game isn't a game.
It's like building a new story onto your house. You already had a house. You lived in it just fine for years. But now you have more house. It's extra.
If we're going to make the argument about incomplete games you have to pay for to make into real games, the only genre that I think truly applies there is gacha games. They're designed to be mathematically impossible unless you spend a certain amount of money or grind for weeks on end, coercing you to save yourself dozens of hours of your time in exchange for a fee. And then once you beat that boss, the next one is the same thing but even stronger.
Yeah, when I say complete game I mean you don't get the feeling that there's missing content. The base game in TS3 felt like a full game, and I personally sunk thousands of hours into it without any additional content. They went overboard with the sheer number of expansion packs, but those generally added enough content and game play to be worth the money. The stuff packs on the other hand are a gyp. Those were predatory, but you could ignore them without missing out on anything important.
I don't think you're going to see much argument here. I have no qualms about admitting to playing or liking games that might be unpopular here and I like sports. I still quit these games about 5 years ago because they'd just gotten so horrible.
I typically buy one sports game a console generation. No point buying fifa or madden or nhl every year. It’s the same game where they mess up the controls between seasons
The only excuse for that practice back then was lack of dlc on consoles, and in the early days I think they would actually add features.
These games should either go purely subscription based or free to play as there is literally no excuse to release these games yearly now.
Yes that's exactly what would have happened if sports games fans weren't cucks.
I went to a live NFL game once. After every play there is an ad, “Toyota sponsored catch of the hour” etc. Every 30 minutes they trotted out a person from the military, asked everyone to stand and clap for the national hero.
They also had the national anthem with a flag across the field, half time again flag on the field.
I can’t believe I paid $300 to watch people catch a ball and get brainwashed.
I've been to different sorts of sports all over the place, multiple countries, high level, low level, etc. It's one of the things I like to do to kill time at night when I travel as it's different, not usually touristy, and I'm 0% into all the "nightlife" stuff.
NFL is far and away the worst experience I've been to. I think I've been in two or three cities. It's mind boggingly expensive, the game is horrible to watch live (if at all), the fan experience is usually bad, and there's constant advertising like you said too.
I actually enjoy mid-level stuff and things outside the realm of "superstar" popularity the most. I think about anyone could find a way to have fun at a Czech hockey game and they are dirt cheap to boot.
Oh yeah, advertising is a thing everywhere unfortunately.
I think you got downvoted for being off topic.
We were talking about videogames.
Point is simple: Sports fans expect to be ripped off.
Like another poster said, there is a whole subgenre of "Gamer" who ONLY buy sports games. They are actually just Sports fans, and they are literally buying it as "memorabilia" and for the ability to watch fake games play out when there isn't one on tv, or a reason to have their sports buddies over "for a game" when there is no game on tv.
These are the kind of people who trash talk anyone who plays a video game that ISN'T a sports game.
Then there is the dudebros who only buy Current Year Sportsball Game and Current Year Call of Duty with 100$ season pass. These people don't even properly understand that other games exist, and are spending the money for the imagined prestige of having spent money on it.
On point with this one. I know plenty of non-gamers who have consoles to stream and play sports games.
Man that shit was unbearable then. I can’t imagine it with an extra helping of woke now.
Sports fans contributed to the degradation of the industry in 16 bit era, never mind today.
Those games were pretty good. You’re just talking out of your ass.
Go into any store that still stocks retro games, and you'll see a fucking STACK of 4th and 5th gen sports titles they just can't sell, because nobody fucking wants them.
Correlation =/= Causation. People like sports games for stuff other than gameplay (example: they hate outdated rosters) , as this thread points out. Plus there was more publisher competition & sports didn’t become the national fixation in the 90s as it did in the 2000s.
the last sports game I actually paid for was NHL 16 and that was a huge waste of money. I've gotten a bunch for free since then and I don't even bother. Not even worth the Hard Drive space.
That reminds me, Forza 7 is being pulled from digital shelves for good.
Deluxe edition dropped down to $19.99. I grabbed it in order to get the Fast & Furious custom Camaro and Chevy Bel-Air (man those are some beautiful cars).
Anyway, this is just another reason why the "all-digital future" is horrible and anti-consumer.
This is true. At best you get a $60 roster change. At worst you get all the shit described above.
The quintessential Sports Goomer
Sports fans are retards, but I would say that football (soccer) fans are the most retarded of them all.