Ever feel like we are in the equivalent of the last days of Rome before the dark ages? The barabarians invaded and looted Rome, toppling statues and temples.
Oh it definitely came from within in Rome's case, too. Opportunistic, backstabbing senators focused solely on short-term personal gain & the descendants of barbarians allowed to reach high up into the top ranks of Roman society killed every single remotely effective leader who tried to turn things around for Rome. Such was the fate of great men whose greatness was cut short like Stilicho (incidentally a half-barbarian himself), Flavius Aetius and Majorian.
If it weren't for the absolute worthlessness of the Roman political class and the complacency of its citizens, grown so soft and hollow-spirited that they'd rather keep their heads down & go along with the flow than try to resist their new barbarian overlords, Rome could have endured for another thousand years. As it did in the more energetic and less degenerated East, which had the good sense to purge the problems it shared with the West before it was toppled.
Many civilizations suffered the same fate for the same reasons; including the Persian, Roman, Byzantine, Arab, Spanish, Ottoman, British and Russian empires. Every one of them entered a period of decadence wrought with selfishness, materialism, corruption and a loss of a sense of duty and purpose. Every one of them also had a very pervasive presence of elites and intellectuals before their downfalls.
In two hundred years people will blame outside forces for this too. Chinese psyops, russian propaganda, anything so they don't have to think about the uncomfortable truth that they're just as able to have society fall as we are.
Eh, not really. The Western Roman Empire's situation actually remained salvageable a lot longer than many people think, and even before the permanent partition of the united empire into two halves Rome had already overcome the Crisis of the 3rd Century and the Gothic invasions of the 4th. Shit only really started going downhill with the execution of Stilicho, the half-Vandal generalissimo of the WRE from 395 who had crushed multiple barbarian invasions & uprisings, in 408 on bullshit charges of treason concocted by the senator Olympius. After the Emperor Honorius (who had previously been like a second son to Stilicho) gave Olympius the reins of government, he proceeded to consistently make the worst possible decisions for two years until the Visigoths sacked Rome in 410.
Even then the WRE had a second chance. During the long & inadequate reign of Valentinian III they got Flavius Aetius, who was badass enough to fight and actually defeat Attila the Hun in 451. Of course then Valentinian rewarded Aetius by personally murdering him, motivated by rumors that the successful & popular general was going to usurp him - rumors which were spread by Petronius Maximus, another senator who was actually planning to usurp the throne himself and needed loyal, competent Aetius out of the way. After arranging Valentinian's assassination, Petronius ruled for two months before getting Rome sacked by the Vandals and himself lynched by a mob (for trying to abandon them to the Vandals) along with his son.
And still the Romans had a third chance in Majorian, their last really capable emperor who reigned from 457 to 461. Majorian was a genuine populist who reformed the laws to give the commons a fighting chance against the elites in the courts, got further than basically everyone else before him in his attempts to fix the Roman economy (which had long been fucked between chronic hyperinflation, massive tax evasion by the elite, the impoverishment of the non-elites and barbarian raids), and forced back various barbarian tribes to recover a swathe of Roman territory. Naturally he ended up being tortured to death by his Suebic general Ricimer, who was pretty much the anti-Stilicho, with the enthusiastic backing of the Senate. After this there was truly no hope, at best the WRE could've shambled along as a puppet of the Eastern Romans/Byzantines if their joint attempt to reconquer Africa from the Vandals in 472 had succeeded.
A modern approximation of this sad yet preventable decline would be if America kept voting out/assassinating every popular and competent populist president who tries to right its course between 2028 and 2076, at least one of whom should be an actual based black/Latino man to complete the Stilicho analogy, despite these candidates cropping up and trying to save the country as late as the 2060s. And then being all surprised Pikachu when the last FBI detachment is massacred and the last establishment figurehead they were protecting gets deposed by some Somali warlord in 2076, followed by that warlord declaring himself Sultan of Ameerika in the bombed-out ruins of DC and sending the presidential flag to the SACEUR, who has somehow managed to keep America more alive in Europe than on the North American continent itself.
On CityTV, where floating dogs in video games moving their hips while floating in mid-air is described as "eerily realistic virtual rape" they described this as the statue being "taken down" like approved crews came and professionally took it down. They also celebrated the violent mob and labelled one as "residential school survivor" instead of "participant in violent insurrection"
See, I'm basing it off what I've heard in the US, and there wasn't any sort of mass deaths in the US at the schools that Indians got sent to. I'm prepared to recant that if I knew that something truly murderous was going on.
Here's the thing, a few years ago we did a truth & reconciliation commission and anyone who read their report wouldn't be shocked by the findings- the T&R knew there were lots of unmarked graves out there.
There were a lot of deaths at those school, while many are from abuse & neglect they figure about 50% of the deaths were from TB.
Apparently they are finding a concerning amount of bodies on the properties of these schools. Not death camps, for sure, but definitely off, which fits with the whole thing about the ones who preach the loudest being the most suspect (male feminists all being perverts and degenerates, Canadians being holier-than-thou while literally having schools full of dead natives, etc.)
I'd have to know more before I'd call someone a "survivor".
There is an intentional connotation that these schools existed for the sake of murder, when someone says that.
If we can establish that the children's deaths were caused by something the schools did, at least that would be one thing; but that wouldn't still validate the idea of calling anyone who attended the school a survivor.
That would be like calling every single person who ever went to Penn State a "survivor of Penn State" because of the sexual abuse done by Penn State's football coach.
look at the living conditions and child mortality rates in Canada in the years these schools functioned.
A lot of people have a lot of opinions about this whole thing. the GPR tech they're using to make these claims isn't the most precise thing, but it doesn't matter because they haven't actually released any GPR images confirming bodies found, or the name of the guy who made the initial discovery.
fuck Canadians, they are holier than thou and have learned to be completely fucking helpless while simultaneously knowing better than everybody else, but 4 Catholic Churches have burned down since the media started lying about this shit.
"Schools full of dead natives" is a bit of overstatement. Life was tough in Central and Northern Canada in the late 1800's.
As for the Church's education: my dad got one (not in Canada). It was tough, it got physical. but hey, he would've been better off doing the shit that natives are known for doing instead of getting a job putting a ring on my mom's finger and having a good family right?
Apparently they are finding a concerning amount of bodies
It should be clarified that not a single body has yet been exhumed or identified.
The entire hoopla is based on a First Nations band in Kamloops BC commissioning their own private ground penetrating radar survey and claiming that they found 215 graves based on differences in density patterns.
But nothing has been excavated. They haven't released the study. They won't even identify the company that performed the study.
Now every band in the country is demanding government money to hire companies to survey other former school sites to look for unmarked graves.
I don't doubt that children's graves will be discovered. But this exercise is completely political.
Everyone is trying to virtue signal about this like it's a new diwcovery and memory hole the fact that Canada already had a 7 year inquiry into residential schools that wasted millions of dollars on similar political exercises that accomplish little and already investigated this past history in excruciating detail.
In the failed state of Manitoba, police will arrest opposition politicians for having peaceful anti-lockdown protests. But they’ll sit and watch passively as a mob violently tears down statues right on the Legislature grounds.
10,000 people gathered in London, ON on Canada Day for a residential school vigil.
But, yes, Maxime Bernier, leader of a federal party, was arrested last month in Manitoba for attending antilockdown gatherings in city parks and failing to quarantine for 14 days upon entering the province, and was subsequently forced to leave the province upon his release.
They're toppling statues of English monarchs because they're angry about kids dying in boarding schools and being buried in unmarked graves by... Catholics.
They're so clueless, that their response to being wronged by Catholic institutions is to attack statues of a protestant family known for oppressing catholics for approximately 500 years.
This like yelling at the Emperor of Japan because you hate K-Pop.
Funny how all the leftists defending this (including on Reddit) are all about how "it's just a statue, awww are your feelings hurt about a hunk of metal???"... and yet I'm sure they would totally be against destroying an Ancient Roman monument to Caesar, who actually enslaved people and was far worse of a human being than Queen Victoria and especially Queen Elizabeth.
What about that George Floyd statue? It's dedicated to a pregnant-woman abusing, house robbing, baggie-swallowing meth addict who died of over-indulgence and yet if someone so much as place a banana peel in his hand - everyone loses their shit.
so what I am seeing is that I should do what they did during the Boston Tea Party and dress up like a native and do something wild.
They got caught in 4k, lined up to take pictures with their pathetic little fists in the sky, got put on the daily fucking news, and no prosecution????? anybody could grab 4 mexicans and start doing this shit
Ever feel like we are in the equivalent of the last days of Rome before the dark ages? The barabarians invaded and looted Rome, toppling statues and temples.
It feels like the last days for sure.
The big difference between this and Rome is that it comes form inside.
Oh it definitely came from within in Rome's case, too. Opportunistic, backstabbing senators focused solely on short-term personal gain & the descendants of barbarians allowed to reach high up into the top ranks of Roman society killed every single remotely effective leader who tried to turn things around for Rome. Such was the fate of great men whose greatness was cut short like Stilicho (incidentally a half-barbarian himself), Flavius Aetius and Majorian.
If it weren't for the absolute worthlessness of the Roman political class and the complacency of its citizens, grown so soft and hollow-spirited that they'd rather keep their heads down & go along with the flow than try to resist their new barbarian overlords, Rome could have endured for another thousand years. As it did in the more energetic and less degenerated East, which had the good sense to purge the problems it shared with the West before it was toppled.
Many civilizations suffered the same fate for the same reasons; including the Persian, Roman, Byzantine, Arab, Spanish, Ottoman, British and Russian empires. Every one of them entered a period of decadence wrought with selfishness, materialism, corruption and a loss of a sense of duty and purpose. Every one of them also had a very pervasive presence of elites and intellectuals before their downfalls.
In two hundred years people will blame outside forces for this too. Chinese psyops, russian propaganda, anything so they don't have to think about the uncomfortable truth that they're just as able to have society fall as we are.
Rome was basically collapsed by the time the Barbarians arrived.
Eh, not really. The Western Roman Empire's situation actually remained salvageable a lot longer than many people think, and even before the permanent partition of the united empire into two halves Rome had already overcome the Crisis of the 3rd Century and the Gothic invasions of the 4th. Shit only really started going downhill with the execution of Stilicho, the half-Vandal generalissimo of the WRE from 395 who had crushed multiple barbarian invasions & uprisings, in 408 on bullshit charges of treason concocted by the senator Olympius. After the Emperor Honorius (who had previously been like a second son to Stilicho) gave Olympius the reins of government, he proceeded to consistently make the worst possible decisions for two years until the Visigoths sacked Rome in 410.
Even then the WRE had a second chance. During the long & inadequate reign of Valentinian III they got Flavius Aetius, who was badass enough to fight and actually defeat Attila the Hun in 451. Of course then Valentinian rewarded Aetius by personally murdering him, motivated by rumors that the successful & popular general was going to usurp him - rumors which were spread by Petronius Maximus, another senator who was actually planning to usurp the throne himself and needed loyal, competent Aetius out of the way. After arranging Valentinian's assassination, Petronius ruled for two months before getting Rome sacked by the Vandals and himself lynched by a mob (for trying to abandon them to the Vandals) along with his son.
And still the Romans had a third chance in Majorian, their last really capable emperor who reigned from 457 to 461. Majorian was a genuine populist who reformed the laws to give the commons a fighting chance against the elites in the courts, got further than basically everyone else before him in his attempts to fix the Roman economy (which had long been fucked between chronic hyperinflation, massive tax evasion by the elite, the impoverishment of the non-elites and barbarian raids), and forced back various barbarian tribes to recover a swathe of Roman territory. Naturally he ended up being tortured to death by his Suebic general Ricimer, who was pretty much the anti-Stilicho, with the enthusiastic backing of the Senate. After this there was truly no hope, at best the WRE could've shambled along as a puppet of the Eastern Romans/Byzantines if their joint attempt to reconquer Africa from the Vandals in 472 had succeeded.
A modern approximation of this sad yet preventable decline would be if America kept voting out/assassinating every popular and competent populist president who tries to right its course between 2028 and 2076, at least one of whom should be an actual based black/Latino man to complete the Stilicho analogy, despite these candidates cropping up and trying to save the country as late as the 2060s. And then being all surprised Pikachu when the last FBI detachment is massacred and the last establishment figurehead they were protecting gets deposed by some Somali warlord in 2076, followed by that warlord declaring himself Sultan of Ameerika in the bombed-out ruins of DC and sending the presidential flag to the SACEUR, who has somehow managed to keep America more alive in Europe than on the North American continent itself.
Thanks for the insight, this was nice.
fantastic post.
On CityTV, where floating dogs in video games moving their hips while floating in mid-air is described as "eerily realistic virtual rape" they described this as the statue being "taken down" like approved crews came and professionally took it down. They also celebrated the violent mob and labelled one as "residential school survivor" instead of "participant in violent insurrection"
https://imgur.com/a/GDlMwdT
I just don't even know how to react anymore... we're living in a fucking nightmare
It's a school not a death camp. Fuck these people.
TBF the residential schools were pretty terrible and a lot of kids died there from neglect.
But if a Proud Boy destroyed a George Floyd statue I doubt any media outlet would label them "cancer survivor"
See, I'm basing it off what I've heard in the US, and there wasn't any sort of mass deaths in the US at the schools that Indians got sent to. I'm prepared to recant that if I knew that something truly murderous was going on.
Here's the thing, a few years ago we did a truth & reconciliation commission and anyone who read their report wouldn't be shocked by the findings- the T&R knew there were lots of unmarked graves out there.
There were a lot of deaths at those school, while many are from abuse & neglect they figure about 50% of the deaths were from TB.
There's more of an argument there, but dying from TB is not much better.
Apparently they are finding a concerning amount of bodies on the properties of these schools. Not death camps, for sure, but definitely off, which fits with the whole thing about the ones who preach the loudest being the most suspect (male feminists all being perverts and degenerates, Canadians being holier-than-thou while literally having schools full of dead natives, etc.)
I'd have to know more before I'd call someone a "survivor".
There is an intentional connotation that these schools existed for the sake of murder, when someone says that.
If we can establish that the children's deaths were caused by something the schools did, at least that would be one thing; but that wouldn't still validate the idea of calling anyone who attended the school a survivor.
That would be like calling every single person who ever went to Penn State a "survivor of Penn State" because of the sexual abuse done by Penn State's football coach.
look at the living conditions and child mortality rates in Canada in the years these schools functioned.
A lot of people have a lot of opinions about this whole thing. the GPR tech they're using to make these claims isn't the most precise thing, but it doesn't matter because they haven't actually released any GPR images confirming bodies found, or the name of the guy who made the initial discovery.
fuck Canadians, they are holier than thou and have learned to be completely fucking helpless while simultaneously knowing better than everybody else, but 4 Catholic Churches have burned down since the media started lying about this shit.
"Schools full of dead natives" is a bit of overstatement. Life was tough in Central and Northern Canada in the late 1800's.
As for the Church's education: my dad got one (not in Canada). It was tough, it got physical. but hey, he would've been better off doing the shit that natives are known for doing instead of getting a job putting a ring on my mom's finger and having a good family right?
It should be clarified that not a single body has yet been exhumed or identified.
The entire hoopla is based on a First Nations band in Kamloops BC commissioning their own private ground penetrating radar survey and claiming that they found 215 graves based on differences in density patterns.
But nothing has been excavated. They haven't released the study. They won't even identify the company that performed the study.
Now every band in the country is demanding government money to hire companies to survey other former school sites to look for unmarked graves.
I don't doubt that children's graves will be discovered. But this exercise is completely political.
Everyone is trying to virtue signal about this like it's a new diwcovery and memory hole the fact that Canada already had a 7 year inquiry into residential schools that wasted millions of dollars on similar political exercises that accomplish little and already investigated this past history in excruciating detail.
And yes, this is the same Manitoba where the arrested Maxime Bernier for speaking to a dozen people: https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1410950780404867077
When can I support Maximilian Bernier's march on Rome?
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/donate
10,000 people gathered in London, ON on Canada Day for a residential school vigil.
But, yes, Maxime Bernier, leader of a federal party, was arrested last month in Manitoba for attending antilockdown gatherings in city parks and failing to quarantine for 14 days upon entering the province, and was subsequently forced to leave the province upon his release.
Let me make it even more ridiculous.
They're toppling statues of English monarchs because they're angry about kids dying in boarding schools and being buried in unmarked graves by... Catholics.
They're so clueless, that their response to being wronged by Catholic institutions is to attack statues of a protestant family known for oppressing catholics for approximately 500 years.
This like yelling at the Emperor of Japan because you hate K-Pop.
So destroying property is fine but being angry at those who did this is wrong. Fuck I hate what Canada has become.
Wokanada forever! ?
Funny how all the leftists defending this (including on Reddit) are all about how "it's just a statue, awww are your feelings hurt about a hunk of metal???"... and yet I'm sure they would totally be against destroying an Ancient Roman monument to Caesar, who actually enslaved people and was far worse of a human being than Queen Victoria and especially Queen Elizabeth.
What about that George Floyd statue? It's dedicated to a pregnant-woman abusing, house robbing, baggie-swallowing meth addict who died of over-indulgence and yet if someone so much as place a banana peel in his hand - everyone loses their shit.
I'm sure they would destroy any statue of Julius Caesar, it is that of a white male so that would be enough.
Have they taken down any statues of Karl Marx? I bet a faction of leftists would totally do it but the elites wouldn't let them.
It was a mostly peaceful monument desecration.
Mostly peaceful land re-appropriation.
Doesn't the Queen still have the final say in things in Canada?
Yes, but it would require a lot of political influence she doesn't actually have to pull off.
Influence she might still have if she used it to root out Britain's enemies.
She would have to make a full decree and have it fulfilled by the very people who don't want it.
you guys should move out of Chanada before the dictator close the borders. you know how this works.
Based Jacobites?
No, just retarded Jacobins.
so what I am seeing is that I should do what they did during the Boston Tea Party and dress up like a native and do something wild.
They got caught in 4k, lined up to take pictures with their pathetic little fists in the sky, got put on the daily fucking news, and no prosecution????? anybody could grab 4 mexicans and start doing this shit
Imagine supporting the child killing British monarchy lmfao
Might want to do some research on Queen Victoria, you commie.
You dumb fucks should get your carers read a history book and attempt to explain shit to you retards....
What are you trying to say here? I don't speak illiterate.
Ask your carer to explain retard