Why is it that the ones who make a huge deal of being against pictures of fictional anime girls are the ones being outed as sexual predators in real life?
My view of the recently discussed "loli issue" is very simple. I personally don't like loli but I think banning it will just be giving ground to the left's war on anime in general.
Ah yes, the real creeps are the people who think illustrations of children getting fucked is degenerate trash that has no place in a moral society. We're definitely all closet pedos. The dudes literally jerking off to animated child sex comics are probably the good guys.
This sub turns 100% retarded in order to defend this vile shit.
and this is the issue with you here. Your obsessive and extreme reaction its as if you are getting angry with someone hurting an actual kid , which is behaving exactly as someone who cant see a fiction cartoon from a real kid or acting like those projecting their own issues.
Well, the origin of most lolicon stuff is Japan, a place that has low crime rates and generally seems to be one of the nicest places to live. But according to you, lolicon is degenerate and has no place in a "moral society". So, surely, you must believe that Japan is a degenerate, immoral society, right?
If that's the case, then why the fuck should I care about whether a society is "moral" or not? Or at least, why the fuck should I care about what you consider to be a "moral society"?
Well, it took Japan until sometime in the 1990s to outlaw actual softcore CP with real children, before then they used to publish picture books full of naked 7 year olds. Japan definitely isn't some kind of a beacon of morality, they just don't talk about anything bad that happens.
You would think that someone with proclivities to underage girls would also have a front of "loli is fine, it's just pictures" so they could defend their own decisions to themselves, if not other people, but it's always this completely backwards set-up.
Wtf is this? Why does this keep happening? Are they in denial about their problems, and can't help themselves? Do they think the position is popular? That would be weird coming from the same people that would report you for decrying Cuties. I see and understand a lot of other double-standards, but this one is just unfathomably inconsistent to me.
If you wanted people to not see your actual crime you would point fingers at others, to make people get distracted .So people who are distracted complaining and wasting time about loli would not go after the actual problems.
Criminals always pretend to hate crime. It's silly to pretend that this behavior is a special characteristic of the anti-loli crowd. The Smash Bros gaming community, on the other hand, seems uniquely predatory.
Lol as if its just this smash bros person. There is countless examples of this thing happening constantly. Just cause you have issues with differentiating a cartoon character from a real kid you want to come here cursing at people
The one thing with free speech, and rights, are that you either have them or you don't. No matter how repugnant anyone believes someone (or something) is, if you allow rights to be exempted because of that, that only ensures they won't exist for you.
Something many will have hopefully learned by now.
Horseshit. Giving rights to communists is why we are currently ruled by communists. What we actually need to learn is that a healthy society has a legitimate and correct understanding of what constitutes degeneracy and takes steps to abolish it from everyday life. This view is quite compatible with the elimination of lolicon.
Giving rights means everyone plays ball and respect each other right.
The problem isn't with the right, it's those who dont play ball.
You dont change good rights because of such people, you kick them out of the field.
I hear a lot of talk about stopping degeneracy which to me sounds good on paper but after seeing people here froth in anger over fucking anime drawings, I can see where the crusade of righteousness ends.
Back to authoritarianism once again but of a different stripe.
As much as I hate the communists on the left, the vitriol I see from specifically the white nationalist crowd who seem to be the ones who froth out the most over this makes me wary of what the world would be like if your types ever seized power.
What is next from you guys after banning everything you call degeneracy?
It's projection. They, themselves, are attracted to underage kids, so they point the fingers at everyone else to try and draw attention away from their own perversions. SJWs always project, so the louder they screech about a topic, the more you can be sure that they are the ones that are actually into it, whether it's pedophilia, racism, or any of the other zillion -ists, -isms, and -phobias they claim those against them have.
I think they know it's wrong on some level, and believe themselves to be saints, so everyone else must be even worse than them. There's also this weird universal thing where people generally tend to die on the sword they set for others.
Yeah, the recent topics in here make me worried for some posters. Anyone who rants like "[thing] inspires evil, inspires the need to perform evil, in all people, people being a category I am in, and I being the ONLY one in that category that I know the thoughts of for certain", is a very worrying person indeed. You see it most readily with SJWs, but that by no means implies others are not going to do the same projection.
I feel like a savant, a genius, some menza-tier philosopher, for being able to entertain an idea while not endorsing it, when that should be basic entry-level critical thought. Then compound my big brain by being able to differentiate fiction from reality, and hypothetical from literal on both on top of it. When really that should be baseline, and apparently, it clearly isn't.
But this, like most "reset the clock"s, should be an ever-important reminder to watch for suspect projection from anyone and everyone. To all those who include themselves in defined groups, then explain how those groups perform evil acts.
Maybe we don't want to live in a society that permits animated depictions of children having sex.
You think you're some mental titan because you can't conceive of a breaking point for your principles. I view your position as laughably stupid. We draw lines every day. I'm guessing you put threats of violence on the other side of this line. I suggest putting animated child porn over there as well, and you refuse. How enlightened.
People commit threats of violence all the time. It is sad, but true. But I do not call the cops and report a rape threat or the graveyard with a vandalism warning every time someone online in a chat room says they will forcibly fornicate with my deceased mother. Because it is within the fiction they've created for themselves. They are rapists and murderers within their own minds, but not, in 99.9999999% of cases, outside them.
I am infinitely forgiving, I suppose. Perhaps I should be reporting it, even if there's no risk of harming a living creature (or, likely speaking, even a risk to the graveyard site being dug up to fornicate with a skeleton, at the very least, no one online yet has gone through with the threat they'd fuck my mum as far as I can tell).
The world within one's own mind, is sacrosanct. You may wish to outlaw thought-crime, to have the government in every shadow of every house, waiting and watching, but alas, I choose freedom over slavery, freedom over what miniscule amount of extra safety such a measure may provide, for that safety would come at the cost of the safety of humanity long-term, the stasis of our civilization.
Call me when real harm is at immediate risk of happening, and I'll be right there to help defend you, or them. Call me after it happens, I'll be clamoring for proper punishment. But do not call upon me to police the minds of the world. For to me, there can be no greater evil than to stop all human progress, to stop Thought itself. And yes, that means Risk exists. It means the chance of Harm coming to some exists. Pain coming to me, to you, to our sires, or our progeny. And that's a high cost, but the product of "the continued existence of Humanity" is worth that price.
The line I draw is "real/fictional", my sarcasm in some other posts aside, because that line is "Exists/Thoughtcrime" in other words. A "threat" by legal standards is credible, it must present an immediate risk, and while there is much to be desired about the state of the world, that standard is live with-able. I do not wish to end the Protestant Church because scriptures note that people they are supposed to emulate within the books have murdered innocents for no good reason by modern morality standards, because people in real life can't summon bears to maul children that make fun of bald spots, and even if a bear trainer with a bald spot did exist that was sensitive about it, it would be highly unlikely he'd sic his animals upon the youth populations, even if the thought crossed his mind upon reading that tale.
Why is it that the ones who make a huge deal of being against pictures of fictional anime girls are the ones being outed as sexual predators in real life?
My view of the recently discussed "loli issue" is very simple. I personally don't like loli but I think banning it will just be giving ground to the left's war on anime in general.
The same kind of “male feminist” who protests against rape culture.
They always have “I keep a woman in a basement vibes”
Ah yes, the real creeps are the people who think illustrations of children getting fucked is degenerate trash that has no place in a moral society. We're definitely all closet pedos. The dudes literally jerking off to animated child sex comics are probably the good guys.
This sub turns 100% retarded in order to defend this vile shit.
and this is the issue with you here. Your obsessive and extreme reaction its as if you are getting angry with someone hurting an actual kid , which is behaving exactly as someone who cant see a fiction cartoon from a real kid or acting like those projecting their own issues.
Well, the origin of most lolicon stuff is Japan, a place that has low crime rates and generally seems to be one of the nicest places to live. But according to you, lolicon is degenerate and has no place in a "moral society". So, surely, you must believe that Japan is a degenerate, immoral society, right?
If that's the case, then why the fuck should I care about whether a society is "moral" or not? Or at least, why the fuck should I care about what you consider to be a "moral society"?
Well, it took Japan until sometime in the 1990s to outlaw actual softcore CP with real children, before then they used to publish picture books full of naked 7 year olds. Japan definitely isn't some kind of a beacon of morality, they just don't talk about anything bad that happens.
You would think that someone with proclivities to underage girls would also have a front of "loli is fine, it's just pictures" so they could defend their own decisions to themselves, if not other people, but it's always this completely backwards set-up.
Wtf is this? Why does this keep happening? Are they in denial about their problems, and can't help themselves? Do they think the position is popular? That would be weird coming from the same people that would report you for decrying Cuties. I see and understand a lot of other double-standards, but this one is just unfathomably inconsistent to me.
If you wanted people to not see your actual crime you would point fingers at others, to make people get distracted .So people who are distracted complaining and wasting time about loli would not go after the actual problems.
Criminals always pretend to hate crime. It's silly to pretend that this behavior is a special characteristic of the anti-loli crowd. The Smash Bros gaming community, on the other hand, seems uniquely predatory.
Lol as if its just this smash bros person. There is countless examples of this thing happening constantly. Just cause you have issues with differentiating a cartoon character from a real kid you want to come here cursing at people
It's a projection of shame.
They know they're guilty and attempt to pass that guilt off onto others.
The one thing with free speech, and rights, are that you either have them or you don't. No matter how repugnant anyone believes someone (or something) is, if you allow rights to be exempted because of that, that only ensures they won't exist for you.
Something many will have hopefully learned by now.
Horseshit. Giving rights to communists is why we are currently ruled by communists. What we actually need to learn is that a healthy society has a legitimate and correct understanding of what constitutes degeneracy and takes steps to abolish it from everyday life. This view is quite compatible with the elimination of lolicon.
Giving rights means everyone plays ball and respect each other right. The problem isn't with the right, it's those who dont play ball. You dont change good rights because of such people, you kick them out of the field.
I hear a lot of talk about stopping degeneracy which to me sounds good on paper but after seeing people here froth in anger over fucking anime drawings, I can see where the crusade of righteousness ends.
Back to authoritarianism once again but of a different stripe.
As much as I hate the communists on the left, the vitriol I see from specifically the white nationalist crowd who seem to be the ones who froth out the most over this makes me wary of what the world would be like if your types ever seized power.
What is next from you guys after banning everything you call degeneracy?
I know it won't stop there.
All centralised power is a parhway to leftism.
It's projection. They, themselves, are attracted to underage kids, so they point the fingers at everyone else to try and draw attention away from their own perversions. SJWs always project, so the louder they screech about a topic, the more you can be sure that they are the ones that are actually into it, whether it's pedophilia, racism, or any of the other zillion -ists, -isms, and -phobias they claim those against them have.
I think so too.
I think they know it's wrong on some level, and believe themselves to be saints, so everyone else must be even worse than them. There's also this weird universal thing where people generally tend to die on the sword they set for others.
Yeah, the recent topics in here make me worried for some posters. Anyone who rants like "[thing] inspires evil, inspires the need to perform evil, in all people, people being a category I am in, and I being the ONLY one in that category that I know the thoughts of for certain", is a very worrying person indeed. You see it most readily with SJWs, but that by no means implies others are not going to do the same projection.
I feel like a savant, a genius, some menza-tier philosopher, for being able to entertain an idea while not endorsing it, when that should be basic entry-level critical thought. Then compound my big brain by being able to differentiate fiction from reality, and hypothetical from literal on both on top of it. When really that should be baseline, and apparently, it clearly isn't.
But this, like most "reset the clock"s, should be an ever-important reminder to watch for suspect projection from anyone and everyone. To all those who include themselves in defined groups, then explain how those groups perform evil acts.
Maybe we don't want to live in a society that permits animated depictions of children having sex.
You think you're some mental titan because you can't conceive of a breaking point for your principles. I view your position as laughably stupid. We draw lines every day. I'm guessing you put threats of violence on the other side of this line. I suggest putting animated child porn over there as well, and you refuse. How enlightened.
People commit threats of violence all the time. It is sad, but true. But I do not call the cops and report a rape threat or the graveyard with a vandalism warning every time someone online in a chat room says they will forcibly fornicate with my deceased mother. Because it is within the fiction they've created for themselves. They are rapists and murderers within their own minds, but not, in 99.9999999% of cases, outside them.
I am infinitely forgiving, I suppose. Perhaps I should be reporting it, even if there's no risk of harming a living creature (or, likely speaking, even a risk to the graveyard site being dug up to fornicate with a skeleton, at the very least, no one online yet has gone through with the threat they'd fuck my mum as far as I can tell).
The world within one's own mind, is sacrosanct. You may wish to outlaw thought-crime, to have the government in every shadow of every house, waiting and watching, but alas, I choose freedom over slavery, freedom over what miniscule amount of extra safety such a measure may provide, for that safety would come at the cost of the safety of humanity long-term, the stasis of our civilization.
Call me when real harm is at immediate risk of happening, and I'll be right there to help defend you, or them. Call me after it happens, I'll be clamoring for proper punishment. But do not call upon me to police the minds of the world. For to me, there can be no greater evil than to stop all human progress, to stop Thought itself. And yes, that means Risk exists. It means the chance of Harm coming to some exists. Pain coming to me, to you, to our sires, or our progeny. And that's a high cost, but the product of "the continued existence of Humanity" is worth that price.
The line I draw is "real/fictional", my sarcasm in some other posts aside, because that line is "Exists/Thoughtcrime" in other words. A "threat" by legal standards is credible, it must present an immediate risk, and while there is much to be desired about the state of the world, that standard is live with-able. I do not wish to end the Protestant Church because scriptures note that people they are supposed to emulate within the books have murdered innocents for no good reason by modern morality standards, because people in real life can't summon bears to maul children that make fun of bald spots, and even if a bear trainer with a bald spot did exist that was sensitive about it, it would be highly unlikely he'd sic his animals upon the youth populations, even if the thought crossed his mind upon reading that tale.