Does he want to spend the rest of his life trying to gain grounds with a woman obviously unwilling to respect his opinions? Does he want to forever live in conflict? Would he want to raise children when their mother, his supposed partner in everything, has such an attitude? If she already wants to shame him for his harmless interests, then imagine how things would get if genuine disagreements start.
This is not her one thing. Someone who thinks like this will find a problem with whatever else he likes. Would hebe happy if he had to constantly worry about her opinions? Like what if he wants to see a movie or listen to a song... or go to a restaurant or buy from a company that she finds "problematic" because it's the newest thing to hate according to Twitter? Would he be willing to live in constant worry over what she will think of every choice he makes?
That's what I would tell him. That he shouldn't make a "compromise" that's basically the woman ruling over him and making him feel bad about his hobbies and the things that make him have fun (that don't hurt anyone, of course).
I don't know him, but he is 100% worth more than wasting himself like that.
In every relationship there are times when you two disagree. But never settle for a person who makes you more miserable, anxious and unhappy than you were before them.
this tbh. It's only a matter of time till it's just another channel to pump propaganda into peoples' minds. Now that it's truly gone global you'll see all sorts coming in to sanitize and ruin it.
Arguably we're already starting to see that. Crunchyroll and its descent into wokeism is just the beginning.
You could point out how the Japanese sexualize men and boys for female enjoyment through otome and BL.
But you would be wasting your time. Her belief is religious, and she’s always going to find a way around whatever you bring up. As for your friend, ask him to think about whether he really believes anything he could say would change her mind.
I was going to suggest the same thing, along with telling her that many ecchi and hentai artists are women themselves. I don't have the stats, but I remember reading somewhere that around 50% of hentai doujin artists are women.
I think if this chick has even a shred of decency, then this should at least make her consider that he has a point, and that maybe it's okay for anime to be sexy. If someone has a problem with creepy anime bullshit when it's for a male audience, but not otome games, yaoi, or other ecchi/hentai material created by/for females, then that is simply a double standard, rules for thee not for me, and there's really no way around that.
Hopefully it convinces her, but yeah there's a pretty high chance she instead tries to justify double standards through critical theory bullshit. In that case, explain to her that this is objectively a double standard, and that you can't think it's okay for one gender to do and not the other. If she believes that, then she literally believes in witchcraft. It's two people doing the same damn thing, but because one is the "wrong" gender, somehow it magically becomes wrong to do and fills the world with evil!
If she still refuses to see the light, then yeah, at that point she's just a religious fanatic and you and your buddy should just cut her out of your lives.
It’s that simple. Ideally this shouldn’t have to be the answer and through logical debate, you could get her to see the other side, but in this day and age it’s not possible. I feel for him as I wish it didn’t have to be this way but these are the cards that’ve been dealt
Two possible things are going to happen. He'll either get groomed enough to be wrapped around her twisted finger, or he's going to get hurt bad enough for the red pill to take effect. There's little you can do really. Some people have to see the world for what it is themselves. Just be there for him if the latter happens, because that's a vulnerable phase.
It is not your responsibility to "save" someone with clever words and dialogue choices. It is also, in turn, not his responsibility to do the same.
If someone thinks Cuties is okay but Kill la Kill isn't... They're evil. Straight-up. If they look at Steven Universe and go "yeesh, slow it with the grooming of minors", and also dislike KLK for sexualization reasons, you could reason with them, agree to disagree, whatever, but holding the view one-sided is racist, xenophobic, small-minded, and incredibly self-centered. Thus: Evil. Heroes redeem villains, it is true, but most people are not heroes, and most people who think they are heroes, are still also not heroes.
When people are in a cult, the best you can do is inform them that you're there for them if they ever want out, if they need an outside perspective or a second opinion on their moral compass, and to remind them that they are free to ignore that opinion or view and still be welcome to seek it again in the future anyways, and anyone saying to close out completely someone so costlessly ignored, is afraid that an outside perspective would shatter a constructed false worldview.
"If you were smart enough to cajole them out of it, you'd have done so by now."
People can leave a cult by force, but it is usually their own internal monologue that wakes them to the need to leave, and the outside force is merely an arm held out to lift them back above water.
sexy women in media are not just perfectly fine, they are the right thing to do!
there is no such thing as sexualization, stop creating stupid new verbs..
oh, she is 17? oh that better!
the lack of dumb token women in media is problematic.
the more you hate it, the more I enjoy it.
woman do you spend all your time chasing delusions on Twitter...
or you still remember the way for the kitchen and fetch that sandwich ya?
you cannot help people beyond the measure they want to be helped.
as feminism propaganda is not based on logic those who fall for it are incapable to reason out of it. the only way to fix this would require him to become a beacon of light, a person she admires so much that she is ready to listen and change her belief if he tells her so. and reaching such a status god know if is possible.
just cut that threat. if impossible, then never touch the argument again.
Just part of the pussification of the male. Death by 1,000 cuts. Like all the boys playing dress-up Barbie in Cyberpunk, for example. Drip, drip, drip...
Boys never leaving adolescence and being way too feminized.
Does he want to spend the rest of his life trying to gain grounds with a woman obviously unwilling to respect his opinions? Does he want to forever live in conflict? Would he want to raise children when their mother, his supposed partner in everything, has such an attitude? If she already wants to shame him for his harmless interests, then imagine how things would get if genuine disagreements start.
This is not her one thing. Someone who thinks like this will find a problem with whatever else he likes. Would hebe happy if he had to constantly worry about her opinions? Like what if he wants to see a movie or listen to a song... or go to a restaurant or buy from a company that she finds "problematic" because it's the newest thing to hate according to Twitter? Would he be willing to live in constant worry over what she will think of every choice he makes?
That's what I would tell him. That he shouldn't make a "compromise" that's basically the woman ruling over him and making him feel bad about his hobbies and the things that make him have fun (that don't hurt anyone, of course).
I don't know him, but he is 100% worth more than wasting himself like that.
In every relationship there are times when you two disagree. But never settle for a person who makes you more miserable, anxious and unhappy than you were before them.
Anime going mainstream was a mistake and im sick of these people invading nerd spaces.
There still exists quality anime to watch thankfully (at least a couple), but the crowds at the conventions have gotten worse each year.
this tbh. It's only a matter of time till it's just another channel to pump propaganda into peoples' minds. Now that it's truly gone global you'll see all sorts coming in to sanitize and ruin it.
Arguably we're already starting to see that. Crunchyroll and its descent into wokeism is just the beginning.
You could point out how the Japanese sexualize men and boys for female enjoyment through otome and BL.
But you would be wasting your time. Her belief is religious, and she’s always going to find a way around whatever you bring up. As for your friend, ask him to think about whether he really believes anything he could say would change her mind.
I was going to suggest the same thing, along with telling her that many ecchi and hentai artists are women themselves. I don't have the stats, but I remember reading somewhere that around 50% of hentai doujin artists are women.
I think if this chick has even a shred of decency, then this should at least make her consider that he has a point, and that maybe it's okay for anime to be sexy. If someone has a problem with creepy anime bullshit when it's for a male audience, but not otome games, yaoi, or other ecchi/hentai material created by/for females, then that is simply a double standard, rules for thee not for me, and there's really no way around that.
Hopefully it convinces her, but yeah there's a pretty high chance she instead tries to justify double standards through critical theory bullshit. In that case, explain to her that this is objectively a double standard, and that you can't think it's okay for one gender to do and not the other. If she believes that, then she literally believes in witchcraft. It's two people doing the same damn thing, but because one is the "wrong" gender, somehow it magically becomes wrong to do and fills the world with evil!
If she still refuses to see the light, then yeah, at that point she's just a religious fanatic and you and your buddy should just cut her out of your lives.
Ask what she thinks about Usagi and Tuxedo Mask...
Tell her why is she bigoted and not respecting japanese culture. Plus... its just cartoons and not real lol.
You cut her off...
It’s that simple. Ideally this shouldn’t have to be the answer and through logical debate, you could get her to see the other side, but in this day and age it’s not possible. I feel for him as I wish it didn’t have to be this way but these are the cards that’ve been dealt
It’s his choice in the end.
Two possible things are going to happen. He'll either get groomed enough to be wrapped around her twisted finger, or he's going to get hurt bad enough for the red pill to take effect. There's little you can do really. Some people have to see the world for what it is themselves. Just be there for him if the latter happens, because that's a vulnerable phase.
Your last line is basically the line.
It is not your responsibility to "save" someone with clever words and dialogue choices. It is also, in turn, not his responsibility to do the same.
If someone thinks Cuties is okay but Kill la Kill isn't... They're evil. Straight-up. If they look at Steven Universe and go "yeesh, slow it with the grooming of minors", and also dislike KLK for sexualization reasons, you could reason with them, agree to disagree, whatever, but holding the view one-sided is racist, xenophobic, small-minded, and incredibly self-centered. Thus: Evil. Heroes redeem villains, it is true, but most people are not heroes, and most people who think they are heroes, are still also not heroes.
When people are in a cult, the best you can do is inform them that you're there for them if they ever want out, if they need an outside perspective or a second opinion on their moral compass, and to remind them that they are free to ignore that opinion or view and still be welcome to seek it again in the future anyways, and anyone saying to close out completely someone so costlessly ignored, is afraid that an outside perspective would shatter a constructed false worldview.
"If you were smart enough to cajole them out of it, you'd have done so by now."
People can leave a cult by force, but it is usually their own internal monologue that wakes them to the need to leave, and the outside force is merely an arm held out to lift them back above water.
She’s being xenophobic by displaying flagrant cultural insensitivity and rampant, moral imperialism. Word salad her into a mental pretzel.
sexy women in media are not just perfectly fine, they are the right thing to do!
there is no such thing as sexualization, stop creating stupid new verbs..
oh, she is 17? oh that better!
the lack of dumb token women in media is problematic.
the more you hate it, the more I enjoy it.
woman do you spend all your time chasing delusions on Twitter...
or you still remember the way for the kitchen and fetch that sandwich ya?
you cannot help people beyond the measure they want to be helped.
as feminism propaganda is not based on logic those who fall for it are incapable to reason out of it. the only way to fix this would require him to become a beacon of light, a person she admires so much that she is ready to listen and change her belief if he tells her so. and reaching such a status god know if is possible.
just cut that threat. if impossible, then never touch the argument again.
cut the bitch out.
Is she fat?
She's not wrong.
Just part of the pussification of the male. Death by 1,000 cuts. Like all the boys playing dress-up Barbie in Cyberpunk, for example. Drip, drip, drip...
Boys never leaving adolescence and being way too feminized.