They censored him from every platform so that he could not use his own words in his defense. They can now prevent you from speaking while telling everyone what you said.
They can't remove him before his term is up. The senate won't convene until the 19th, which means they can't vote on the issue until Trump is already out of the office.
The only way to convene the senate earlier would be with an emergency meeting which ALL senators have to agree to. Even Bitch McConnell said that's not going to happen.
No idea if they can still vote on it after Trump is gone. Someone said that would be unconstitutional but that doesn't really mean much anymore.
The next guy won't be Trump because Trump to a degree believes the government is real (I mean probably not now) but the next guy won't and he'll just on day 1 (or maybe day 30 to allow Americans to get out of harms way) declassify everything which will murder the entire rest of the government.
Interestingly enough, the CIA apparently just dropped a couple thousand pages of declassifed shit onto a site called "The Black Vault." Badly photocopied, hard to read, but this just happened within the past day or so.
YEP. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. Trump was not the populist Caesar, he was the friendly, idealistic, slightly bumbling precursor that just wanted the best for everyone. If a populist figure ever manages to come into power again (unlikely due to the cheating), it will be swift and brutal. It will be the Caesar we're waiting for.
It would be one of the greatest ironies of history if in the American establishment's attempt to save itself, they sped up the arrival of your "Augustus Caesar" equivalent.
It doesn't work that way. The Deep State interprets classification in a way such that the President doesn't "need to know" and they won't declassify anything they don't want to.
The corruption has so many Constitutional checks and balances that they've repurposed to protect itself that it can't be fixed from the top by an actual patriot being elected.
The gleeful overreach the tech barons and Democrats are engaging in now strongly suggests they believe they've won for good and will never have to worry about another populist outsider again. I don't doubt the Roman Optimates thought the same when they murdered Tiberius Gracchus and 300 of his supporters.
Oh whoops, that just pissed off his brother Gaius Gracchus, who's now riling up the deplorable plebs too. Ah well, just kill him and 3,000 of his supporters, that's that solved right?
Wait, here comes Marius with a small army of freed gladiators. Guess he won't be as easy to get rid of. Call in Sulla and hope Marius doesn't murder too many of the elites while he can, now the Popularis problem is solved for good right?
Aw crap, now Quintus Sertorius just turned Spain into a base for his rebellion against the Senate. Well, send Pompey to solve that issue the same way Sulla solved the problems Marius made and call it a day...
Hmm, why's there boss music heralding the entry of this 'Gaius Julius Caesar' character onto the political arena? Maybe doubling down on the suppression of the political opposition, up to and including mass-murdering them, without resolving any of the issues motivating them to oppose you in the first place is actually a losing strategy in the long run. Especially when your opponents tend to be well-armed even before all their fears are validated in rapid succession.
Hmm, why's there boss music heralding the entry of this 'Gaius Julius Caesar' character onto the political arena? Maybe doubling down on the suppression of the political opposition, up to and including mass-murdering them, without resolving any of the issues motivating them to oppose you in the first place is actually a losing strategy in the long run. Especially when your opponents tend to be well-armed even before all their fears are validated in rapid succession.
Okay, so we just knifed him in the back after he was nothing but magnanimous to us. That should be the end of it...wait, Mark Antony is rabble rousing and the plebs are pissed.
What's this about "Augustus?" Nah, he's just a kid, focus on Antony.
Edit: Even worse, at least the Optimates had the defence of "Tradition." What does the Establishment have?
It's a meaningless gesture meant to, I dunno, act as foreplay for the senate? That's the only reason I can see them doing this, it's pointless except self-satisfaction. If he is the monster they paint him to be, impeachment wouldn't matter. If he isn't the monster they paint him to be, impeachment STILL wouldn't matter, because he'd be out the door anyways.
Of all the things to do to incite truly massive wanton violence and retribution, that seems like a Top 5, at least, probably Top 3. I don't think they're that stupid or arrogant at this point.
It's educated speculation since it hasn't happened to anyone since the former presidents act legislation was enacted. Some people, myself included, believe the Democrats would strip him of everything, protection included, because they are that vindictive. (Also clearly scared of him. A dead man can't run a media network.) This source, however, cites the Congressional Research Service who does contradict me and they believe Trump would only lose his pension and travel benefits but would retain secret service detail. Doesn't mention if he still gets a library or not.
Simple majority to impeach (which they easily do, as you can see). Then:
"Third, the Senate tries the accused. In the case of the impeachment of a president, the Chief Justice of the United States presides over the proceedings. For the impeachment of any other official, the Constitution is silent on who shall preside, suggesting that this role falls to the Senate's usual presiding officer, the President of the Senate, who is also the Vice President of the United States. Conviction in the Senate requires the concurrence of a two-thirds supermajority of those present. The result of conviction is removal from office and/or disqualification from holding any federal office in the future."
They censored him from every platform so that he could not use his own words in his defense. They can now prevent you from speaking while telling everyone what you said.
They can't remove him before his term is up. The senate won't convene until the 19th, which means they can't vote on the issue until Trump is already out of the office.
The only way to convene the senate earlier would be with an emergency meeting which ALL senators have to agree to. Even Bitch McConnell said that's not going to happen.
No idea if they can still vote on it after Trump is gone. Someone said that would be unconstitutional but that doesn't really mean much anymore.
I understand the aim is to impeach him after he leaves office to prevent the DNC having to put more time on their printers in 2024.
They have no intention of suffering another rampant outbreak of democracy again.
"Democracy is cringe. Read some Aristotle."
The next guy won't be Trump because Trump to a degree believes the government is real (I mean probably not now) but the next guy won't and he'll just on day 1 (or maybe day 30 to allow Americans to get out of harms way) declassify everything which will murder the entire rest of the government.
Interestingly enough, the CIA apparently just dropped a couple thousand pages of declassifed shit onto a site called "The Black Vault." Badly photocopied, hard to read, but this just happened within the past day or so.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7573277/cia-ufo-documents-declassified-online/
I said in another thread, Trump's best revenge before leaving office would be to declassify and dump anything/as much as he can ...
YEP. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. Trump was not the populist Caesar, he was the friendly, idealistic, slightly bumbling precursor that just wanted the best for everyone. If a populist figure ever manages to come into power again (unlikely due to the cheating), it will be swift and brutal. It will be the Caesar we're waiting for.
It would be one of the greatest ironies of history if in the American establishment's attempt to save itself, they sped up the arrival of your "Augustus Caesar" equivalent.
It doesn't work that way. The Deep State interprets classification in a way such that the President doesn't "need to know" and they won't declassify anything they don't want to.
The corruption has so many Constitutional checks and balances that they've repurposed to protect itself that it can't be fixed from the top by an actual patriot being elected.
The gleeful overreach the tech barons and Democrats are engaging in now strongly suggests they believe they've won for good and will never have to worry about another populist outsider again. I don't doubt the Roman Optimates thought the same when they murdered Tiberius Gracchus and 300 of his supporters.
Oh whoops, that just pissed off his brother Gaius Gracchus, who's now riling up the deplorable plebs too. Ah well, just kill him and 3,000 of his supporters, that's that solved right?
Wait, here comes Marius with a small army of freed gladiators. Guess he won't be as easy to get rid of. Call in Sulla and hope Marius doesn't murder too many of the elites while he can, now the Popularis problem is solved for good right?
Aw crap, now Quintus Sertorius just turned Spain into a base for his rebellion against the Senate. Well, send Pompey to solve that issue the same way Sulla solved the problems Marius made and call it a day...
Hmm, why's there boss music heralding the entry of this 'Gaius Julius Caesar' character onto the political arena? Maybe doubling down on the suppression of the political opposition, up to and including mass-murdering them, without resolving any of the issues motivating them to oppose you in the first place is actually a losing strategy in the long run. Especially when your opponents tend to be well-armed even before all their fears are validated in rapid succession.
What's this about "Augustus?" Nah, he's just a kid, focus on Antony.
Edit: Even worse, at least the Optimates had the defence of "Tradition." What does the Establishment have?
Doing it after he's left office is essentially the equivalent of beating a guy unconscious then kicking him in the balls and spitting on him.
Which is why we know they're going to do it
Two Scoops. Two Impeachments that mean nothing!
It's a meaningless gesture meant to, I dunno, act as foreplay for the senate? That's the only reason I can see them doing this, it's pointless except self-satisfaction. If he is the monster they paint him to be, impeachment wouldn't matter. If he isn't the monster they paint him to be, impeachment STILL wouldn't matter, because he'd be out the door anyways.
It would remove his secret service protection, making him easier to assassinate.
Of all the things to do to incite truly massive wanton violence and retribution, that seems like a Top 5, at least, probably Top 3. I don't think they're that stupid or arrogant at this point.
Where are you getting this?
It's educated speculation since it hasn't happened to anyone since the former presidents act legislation was enacted. Some people, myself included, believe the Democrats would strip him of everything, protection included, because they are that vindictive. (Also clearly scared of him. A dead man can't run a media network.) This source, however, cites the Congressional Research Service who does contradict me and they believe Trump would only lose his pension and travel benefits but would retain secret service detail. Doesn't mention if he still gets a library or not.
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/if-president-trump-is-impeached-he-forfeits-his-pension-travel-fund-security-detail-is-that-true/65-3d189015-2897-46a1-8ac7-aa923d243cf1
Is impeachment 2/3rd majority or simple majority?
Simple majority to impeach (which they easily do, as you can see). Then:
"Third, the Senate tries the accused. In the case of the impeachment of a president, the Chief Justice of the United States presides over the proceedings. For the impeachment of any other official, the Constitution is silent on who shall preside, suggesting that this role falls to the Senate's usual presiding officer, the President of the Senate, who is also the Vice President of the United States. Conviction in the Senate requires the concurrence of a two-thirds supermajority of those present. The result of conviction is removal from office and/or disqualification from holding any federal office in the future."
So if it falls after the 20th, it would be cameltoe, if you can impeach someone who isn't holding office, can you preimpeach someone?
Can't impeach him when he isn't holding office for sure. Or pre-impeach, I think.
They're going to destroy him as a warning for any other person who might want to 'get elected' without the approval of the elites.
Unless it backfires in their face and he'll be remembered as a martyr instead.
He'll be a hero to the people and a boogeyman for the corrupt elites.
Like the Grachi