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President Donald Trump: For purposes of national security, Section 230 must be immediately terminated!!! (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 5 years ago by anonymous570861 5 years ago by anonymous570861 +44 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 39 points 5 years ago +39 / -0

Dude's about 4 years late.

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– Knight1_of_Sunset 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Au contraire, it is better to expose and demonstrate WHY section 230 needs to be terminated rather than just say "trust me, it'll work". The rigged elections we had this year is a perfect example.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

We've had 4 straight years of non-stop demonstration. If Biden gets into the white house, which I suspect he probably will, it will be minimum another 4 years before there's a chance to fix the issue - and there's every possibility that there will never be another chance, because literally every election from here on out will probably be rigged the same way.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThink 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

I don't think section 230 needs to be destroyed, but that it needs to be enforced. Sites like Facebook, Twitter and Reddit are clearly acting as publishers. This means they need to be open to the full legal consequences of any illegal content on their sites.

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– Galean 27 points 5 years ago +27 / -0

Section 230 is to vague, it needs to be appended or re-written.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThink 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

I'm inclined to agree. There needs to be some kind of unambiguous rule for determining when a company no longer qualifies for protection. I can only assume such a rule does not exist, because the sites I named previously have been exceedingly blatant in their biased treatment of their users.

I simply disagree with the idea of destroying it completely. I'm willing to accept that destroying it and writing a new, better worded law with the same intent may be the only way. I'm simply not completely convinced that destroying it is necessary right now.

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– TentElephant 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Seize their code and make it public. IP laws are fash.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

It's somebody's property, I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

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– TentElephant 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Knowledge is an infinite resource. The ideas in your head are no longer your property once they leave your mouth.

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– Gizortnik 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

You said seize their code. That's property.

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– TentElephant 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

The servers are property, and you'd have to gain access into them to get the code, but breaking government property for liberation is a foundational American tradition.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Okay, sure, but the servers aren't necessarily government property.

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– TentElephant 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

InQtel has more than enough investment in big tech to consider them official government property, and their active goverance of the population gives them a better claim to the executive branch than Biden.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I'm okay with 230 being yeeted, but the application of the law is the opposite of how you would philosophically pass a law, and as such, requires massively re-writing other laws.

230 carves out legal protections to online publications for them not to be sued for edgy commentary appearing on their site. You should not have a carve out for legal protections at all. You shouldn't need those legal protections. Those 'legal protections' exist because the state justified heavy handed lawsuits against publishers of any kind if some commentary appeared, meaning that older media existed because smaller companies in previous eras wouldn't survive the lawsuits.

That is the problem. A publisher or a platform should not be able to be sued into collapse simply because someone gave their opinion. 230 shouldn't exist as an exception because the underlying laws allowing for massive lawsuits against platforms and publishers shouldn't exist. Removing those, removes the need for an exception to them.

Additionally, we should pull out all of our government subsidies, research grants, tax breaks, etc to these organizations anyway.

Now, can we do that? ... no. There's no political will, and little legal understanding.

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– w-duranty6489 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

Stop tweeting, start acting.

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– deleted 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0
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– Guyven 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

Why only Section 230? Repeal the DMCA.

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– deleted 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0
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– Knife-TotingRat 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

Western individualism is an anomaly amongst human populations. The rest of the world are already used to doing whatever their cult leaders and bossmen tell them to do.

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– SR388-SAX 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Here's how you change it:

If they're found to be biased in favor of certain candidates, make them subject to campaign finance law, and make them file with the FEC. I don't care that Google decided to use their private property to promote Joe Biden -- I just want to make sure that they did so in a legal fashion. I don't care that CNN and MSNBC are pro-Democrat propaganda outlets -- I just want to make sure that they can't exceed the $2500 limit (or whatever it is) for campaign contributions. And if they do exceed it, throw them in jail like they did to Dinesh D'souza.

The left wants so badly to get money out of politics and get corporate control out of government ... well, here's a perfect opportunity to do so.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

And if they do exceed it, throw them in jail like they did to Dinesh D'souza.

No one's going to go to jail like Dinesh D'souza did.

Hell, I'd rather people have the ability to make unlimited personal donations to candidates rather than corporate donations.

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– anonymous570861 [S] 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Source: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332175155104247808

Archive Today: https://archive.is/WsVsQ

Wayback Machine Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20201127041129/https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332175155104247808

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– Norenia 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

It doesn't need to be removed, Big Tech media just needs to lose the qualifications for those protections.

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– deleted 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

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