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It was at that moment I woke up (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 5 years ago by PeaceThroughStrength 5 years ago by PeaceThroughStrength +84 / -0
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– acp_k2win 46 points 5 years ago +46 / -0

Dickwolves

Dickwolves was my awakening. These guys were at arguably the height of their popularity and they were effectively the voices of my generation. Their real crime wasn't the initial incident, their real crime was the followup where they laughed in the face of their accusers, rightly calling out that the outrage was bullshit. THAT defiance was why they had to be crushed. If they could be browbeaten and dog-piled into submission over saying something slightly politically incorrect then what chance did a nobody like me have if the eye of sauron fixed its baleful gaze upon me?

Then anita grifted her way into the scene, then gamergate blew up and made everyone pick sides.

But the stormclouds were on the horizon long before that, just the optimism, divided government, and booming tech economy of the web 1.0 90s kept us from seeing them.

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– LinkR 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

"Dickwolves was my awakening."

I'll take: things you don't want taken out of context, for 200.

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– LinkR 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I refuse to google what that is. I already had to take a chance with dickwolves. Rather not push my luck.

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– LinkR 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Welp, tack another weird thing added to my search history.

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– sdfbgm 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

No, bitch. We wanted a satisfying ending. You can't argue that the journey is more important than the ending when the ending spits in the face of the entire journey.

Yeah, there's a moment right before the end where your guy gets shot in the back, and he needs to push a button to save the day, but he can't because he's on the ground dying. Just for a second I entertained the possibility that that might actually be the end, and I was okay with it. Refreshing to actually have some fiction where the main character gets lethally hurt, and doesn't power through it through a sheer effort of will or the desire to protect his loved ones or the power of friendship or some similar shit. To have a message that sometimes, you can try hard and it doesn't matter. You know, like in real life. Aaand then he gets up for exactly one of those bullshit reasons and my eyeballs rolled so far back into my head I missed most of the rest of the ending, thankfully.

So yes, I would have even been okay with an ending much darker than they included, where literally everyone dies, but the ones they did instead were just so lazy on top of railroading the player into agreeing with some pretty stupid philosophy at the end.

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– willy-willis 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Dragon Age 2, as well. It was where Bioware's devs (Hepler first & foremost, I believe) started throwing out the 'gamers are entitled' attack in response to criticism over their game being an underwhelming, rushed and disjointed hot mess with cut-and-paste maps, parachuting enemies replacing logical enemy placement, far more railroading than Origins, and so on.

I didn't think too much of it at the time - it worsened my opinion of the Bioware devs who spazzed out, of course, but I still liked Bioware and its works in general back then - but in hindsight it foreshadowed their same behavior (just to a much bigger extent) when ME3 came out and disappointed.

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– altmehere 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

And journalists spun it and Bioware devs cried about how "entitled gamers are whining for a perfect happy ending".

Just like how they spun backlash to The Last Jedi as fans not getting what they thought would happen.

No, you absolute dickwads. I didn’t speculate about what would happen at all. All I wanted was a good movie.

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– willy-willis 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

GoT was rotten for at least three seasons before that ending anyway, and 'unwarranted grrrl powah overwhelming all sense of reason & logic to the plot' was a part of said rot for a while.

Cersei getting away with nuking the Westerosi equivalent to the Vatican and randomly seizing the throne for no apparent reason nor with any legal backing was the worst it got outside of anything to do with Girl-Hitler, but it went on for an even longer while than Season 5 I'd say. You could see it cropping up as early as Seasons 2-3 (when the show was at its best) with the replacement of Robb's queen with a sassy exotic nurse who, frankly, had no reason to be in his presence at all.

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– willy-willis 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Precisely. Honestly, in regards to that specific character change, the anachronistic 'womanpower' attitude of Talisa wasn't even what maddened me the most (although it was certainly annoying and out-of-place), but how it drastically altered the character of both Robb & Jeyne and the uniqueness of their marriage's circumstances for the worse.

Robb and Jeyne didn't love each other as you said, they probably liked each other well enough on account of being two reasonably attractive teenagers, but they only got hitched because Robb's honor and memory of his (seeming) half-brother Jon wouldn't let him take a highborn maiden's virginity and saddle his child by her with bastardy. Kings and princes making poor matches to their own detriment b/c 'luv' happens all the time in medieval fantasy or historical fiction where there's a romantic arc involved, but them making poor matches for honor's sake, not so much.

(Also, Jeyne was a Westerosi-born noblewoman, even if her house was one of lesser nobility that was in decline, so she'd have been a controversial but still somewhat believable match for King Robb had they lived in better times)

But nah, Weiss & Benioff turned that unique and complicated situation into one where the King in the North falls in love with a random foreign nurse for backtalking him, then marries her in violation of all common sense and in so doing, actually throws his honor under the bus to be with her - literally the opposite of what Book-Robb was trying to do (balancing his honor, Jeyne's, and the Freys'). Stories where 'royalty marries commoner, gets screwed over because of it' are a dime a dozen and thus don't have nearly as much impact as the Robb/Jeyne relationship, IMO.

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– IWanttotalknow 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

People don't like reality. Targaryens tend to go crazy. Long history of it. They couldn't realize they were cheering for the crazy person who just started out nice and not crazy. Not to mention the super duper extremely fucked up life she lived. They wanted her to overcome the madness that was in her family, the murder of her parents and family, going into exile as a tiny child, being essentially sold off, had assassin's after her, multiple friends betray her, being constantly around death and murdered people, etc... and nah, when it came down to doing the right thing, especially at King's Landing, ofc she just went all fucking nuts murdering people with her dragon, lighting them on fire. The fantasy was just that: they wanted their waifu to be the savior, and she was just like the rest of them (mostly :P).

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– WorldsBestestFluffer 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

For me it was that donglegate bullshit at that tech conference. At least that bitch lost her job too.

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– curry_ist_wurst 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Today? She would probably have been promoted and the dudes imprisoned.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Elevatorgate was a big one for me because I knew some people who were Dawkins fanboys who turned on him because of his comments on the matter.

GG was mostly interesting from the standpoint of me having an apparently outdated left-wing idea that of course the media was corrupt because they serve their paymasters, only to find out that the "new left" was now pro-journalist because...reasons.

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– realerfunction 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

all this time later and there's still absolutely zero evidence that the elevator incedent ever even happened to begin with

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– Lurker404 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

Pretty much, yea. The whole Quinn drama was only an amusing sideshow. The real red pill was the concerted campaign of lies by the media. Not just video game "journalists" but all of them, even those from news orgs that I considered to be largely reputable at the time.

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– Greyfox2401 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Nathan Grayson is on borrowed time before he gets #metoo'd by Zoe Quinn because she needs grift money.

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– Greyfox2401 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

double cancelled

https://twitter.com/UnburntWitch/status/1167204022664589318?s=20

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– jakskelyngtn 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

In a row?

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– ButterBadger 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

This is probably the most concise and accurate explanation I've seen in a while.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

For me it happened a decade ago while I was working in academia.

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– StoicVampirePig 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

9/11.

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– Haterjuiced 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Jews and feminists and blacks use the same tactics

Totally not racist. Totally not Nazis. Right?

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– ajfofjakf 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

k

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