This level of TDS boggles the mind.
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If accurate, that's horrific. Its one thing to be deluded into believing the MSM is accurate. But to acknowledge they are a bunch of unethical DNC propogandists and still want them to win is a special kind of stupid. You don't have to like Orange Man, or even vote for Orange man, to acknowledge that if Biden wins, the media and DNC establishment are going to (continue to) do this same thing over and over and over again, with the only change being they'll probably go even more extreme if that's even possible. Whereas if Trump wins at least they're kept out of power for a couple more years and there's a chance that they'll just collapse under their own weight and insanity given how far gone they've already gone.
I'm very concerned, and I think history backs me up on this, that if the Leftist Establishment retake power, they won't be risking it ever again on petty things like "the democratic process" and "human freedom".
That is not a concern. It's a fact of reality. They will become vengefully draconian.
Even if Orange wins, he's gone in 2024. Assuming there isn't a coup or plague or something.
They're openly talking about starting "truth and reconciliation" commissions over electing Trump. I'd say thats a huge warning of their intentions should they win on Tuesday.
President Trump completely broke Sam Harris and Andrew Sullivan it seems.
Sam Harris is a globalist, pure and simple. He likes globalism. He actually had a guy on where they discussed how to make globalism more appealing, and how to get rid of any negative connotation it had.
It seems like he's a highly intelligent man who is still ideologically possessed by narratives that are being spoon fed to him, or worse: are a part of his self-identity now.
I've seen it a few times in academia, by people who I would say are genuinely brilliant, but still manage to be leftists. Sometimes it's an identity crisis issue where someone demands to hold onto a label as part of their personality, and sometimes they've mapped a narrative onto their perspective. That last one is particularly tricky, but I normally see it in racialists who see everything from the Racial Theory of HIstory. You'd have to shatter both their self-identity and their narrative perspective of the world to get them to think outside their own narrative limitations, which is very hard without significant personal exposure/experience. Effectively, they have to be deconverted. Unfortunately, Harris knows exactly what a deconversion is, and how hard it is to go through for the person deconverting.
Another part of this might be that highly intelligent people are easy to manipulate when it comes to authoritarianism. The kind of Technocrat fallacy. "Because I'm a smart person who is normally right, it must mean that I know what the right thing to do is for everyone else." If you're a literal genius, and everyone around you appears genuinely less intelligent than you, you could easily fall into the trap of assuming that you know what's right for them, because you're so often right about other things. It builds a bit of an ego that they might not actually know how/when to control.
Yeah, I quit listening to Harris entirely right around inauguration day in 2017. He'd been pretty insufferable throughout the election season but his takes on Trump were ridiculously uncharitable tripe that I had no interest in.
And somehow he brought up Trump in nearly every context I heard him in. I don't need to listen to Harris work out his own personal psychological demons.
Yup, I'm in line next to you, except I have zero confidence he will work out those demons.
I stopped listening to Sam after his ridiculous attempt to try and frame Clinton as being better than Trump in 2016. He was full of emotional bullshit, and certainly not rational. It was probably the first time I seen the tribe member in him. A year or two later he famously said: "white identity politics is the worst identity politics", which reveled his hand even further. A Jew can only be rational when removed from his tribalism, and Jewish tribalism is at its worst when it comes to Europeans. They hate us more than Muslims even though Muslims would be far quicker to physically destroy them if they had their way.
If they had been broken, they'd deny that the media lies and claim that Hunter Biden did nothing wrong. There is still some good in them. This is why I always caution against judging people based on their politics.
The "good in you" is worthless when you shove it aside while you stab Lady Liberty in the back.
The Trig truther was broken long, long ago.
Sam Harris is to Rationalism as Briana Wu is to Social Justice. Also, the two ideologies, although appearing to be very different, actually have a lot in common.
It's worse than that.
A movement to work on reason and rationality is absolutely invaluable.
Rationalization is what the Left has basically done since the Jacobins, and it's always the opposite of reason and rationality.
The Left has always disguised Rationalization as Rational, when it's anything but.
They are STILL holding on the this bullshit huh? The press was NEVER respectable. You can still easily look up GEORGE FUCKING WASHINGTON'S opinion of the press all the way back before he ever became the first President.
The press has ALWAYS been below even whores in terms of respectability. Their veneer of importance has always been a ruse.
The press is the enemy of the people.
In fairness, the media's credibility was carefully crafted by both themselves & the state since the 1940's; with a strong effort to support that narrative in Hollywood as part of the cultural zeitgeist.
Most people are not going to just assume that the press were always bad because they've almost only ever been told the opposite.
Holy shit, you’re right my mind is boggled. I used to follow both of these guys. I was a subscriber to Sullivan when he first introduced the subscription model for the Dish, and I was pleased as a teenager to receive a reply from Sam Harris when I emailed him my appreciation for The End Of Faith. I’m greatly disappointed that they’re being so ridiculous. Sam Harris says Trump is unironically worse than Hitler? Wtf? So much of what they believe about Trump you can tell is just a result of the most histrionically uncharitable interpretation of some innocuous comment or gesture that wouldn’t raise an eyebrow if exhibited by someone else. It’s incredibly irrational and I expected better of both of these men. You can hear/read the raw emotion in their statements, and the whole schtick of both of these men is that they are unbiased and rational assessors of the cultural landscape. I remember James Lindsay recently said that a large part of the reason that it took him a long time to admit he needed to support trump is because he didn’t want to admit that he had been wrong. It seems that sort of dissonance it at play with Harris and Sullivan (they can admit all the problems with Biden) but they can’t seem to get over their emotional hurdle. Sullivan has always had an irrational bitchy-gay-guy side to him but to see Sam Harris, Mr Atheist, be such a little fucking bitch is something. -10 respect
Someone needs to smack them with reality-
If Trump is worse than Hitler, then literally everything recorded in our history books about WW2 is a lie.
Oy vey.
What else can you expect someone with TDS to say, honestly? The left have repeated the mantra like a fuckin' Ave Maria for the past four years. It it any wonder that the more astute among them are aware of just how worthless the epithet is now?
Now they have to resort to COMPLIMENTING Hitler just in an attempt to make Trump seem worse. Since its Sam Harris, he's disqualified himself from comparing Trump to Satan, but the rest of the leftists aren't above doing that.
Yeah, Harris is pulling into a completely nonsense narrative. Trump is an evil, devious, megalomaniacal, cowardly clown that can't do anything right.
Orange Man Bad. Then Bad = [List of things that are bad, even if contradictory]. Therefore, Orange Man [item].
The talk about suicide if he liked Trump was truly psychotic (if accurately reported). Does that mean that he thinks that the people who support Trump are 'life unworthy of life'?
EDIT: I misread, Harris actually said that if he would himself become like Trump, not if he were to like Trump. Still pretty crazy, but more understandable.
I would be interested to find out the specific incident or statements from Trump that lead them to this view.
In general, Trump's more hyperbolic than necessary but even then I struggle to think of the actual thing he's said that would lead to this conclusion. The many and varied misrepresentations of his words by the media, yeah, sure, if I trusted the media's reporting on the guy I'd probably be ready to crucify him myself ... is this just Gel-Mann amnesia written stratospherically large?
And he knows most of that are invented by TDS patients and leftist journaloids? And he's still mad? Wtf?
Hitler spent his later reign dosed with meth by his "doctor" and "aides". I suppose meth does give "courage".
He did an unarmed march facing soldier's guns during the Beer Hall Putsch though, but the german commies at that time did the same thing with all the commie revolutions at that time.