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TheConservationist 7 points ago +7 / -0

Update: It's a server issue, unrelated to censorship by some outside entity, which should be resolved within the next few days.

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TheConservationist 2 points ago +2 / -0

We're doing well enough, and it was me who you had worked with.

And the designs weren't off-putting.

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TheConservationist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gotcha, thank you for the details. Had looked into PizzaGate, but didn't know that GamerGate directly led to it.

My crude understanding of GamerGate was wokeness was infecting video games, MSM ran cover, and that backfired. Led to people becoming red pilled on The MSM and to some degree on wokeness

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TheConservationist 2 points ago +2 / -0

They've always been a bit light on content, but yes, there is something that feels different about the community.

I think a lot of our "right wing" communities lost something when COVID restrictions ended.

Resistance to the jab mandates was (temporarily) strongly unifying for us.

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TheConservationist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Neat.

Wasn't aware of some of those details, but I vaguely knew of GamerGate's role in helping red pill people.

COVID was what flipped me from apolitical to political, so after GG.

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TheConservationist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Makes sense someone of our disposition and into gaming would come to KIA2.

Personally I'm not one for gaming much these days (been years), but, KIA2 has a high degree of focus on the culture wars as well, which is an aspect I do care more about.

As for GAW, if you go there, you'll find the news is more USA-centric, with some various world news.

When I frequented, they were good with information about: COVID, the jabs, the WEF, the culture war, and various other globalist control schemes

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TheConservationist 3 points ago +3 / -0

I prefer a pretty pared down rule set

This is what we opted for on FCW

but that requires a strong community to police itself

That's probably a key component for this mod policy.

Further to that, a steady but relatively slow stream of new membership to integrate into the community is an important aspect.

Otherwise the community will slowly degrade as members leave for a variety of reasons (e.g., tired of politics, heated disagreements with others in the community, other aspects of life popping up, etc.).

If the active membership declines, one consequence is it runs the risk of the self-policing becoming more and more relaxed. Which in itself creates a negative feedback.

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TheConservationist 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can see how Q related would cause one to tune out

For better or worse, I tend to try to filter out anything I don't like, and keep what I do, rather than ignore it all entirely

However, that might come at the cost of the stuff I don't like rubbing off on me slowly.

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TheConservationist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mods trying to run things per their own ideas will always divide userbases and ultimately fail.

I've come to the opinion that this is more tricky than it sounds on paper.

I'm not sure there's a clearly right answer to how modding ought to be for the sake of allowing a "right-wing" community to thrive.

There are however clearly many ways to mod incorrectly

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TheConservationist 2 points ago +2 / -0

GAW is Q focused, yes, but it's also more than that.

Their community was less combative in their discussions when compared to some other "right-wing" forums, and, GAW was a great information compiler for the types of (non-Q) content I was interested in.

Another WIN forum I forgot about was conspiracies, don't frequent there as much anymore either. I think some of their prominent members left, it seemed like it dropped off a while back.

... I find kia2 has better discussions in general.

Agreed, that's what I like about KIA2 as well.

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TheConservationist 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ultimately, these threads serve to ascertain the general will of the userbase here. Dom may be a tyrant and disregard us but it is nice to see people addressing the censorship/rule 16 banning.

We had the same thing happen on OmegaCanada as well.

There were several threads of this nature made by various members, expressing displeasure with the mod (Ham).

It played out differently there though, rather than become disengaged, our mod Ham became even more ban heavy, which prompted our departure.

I would not really enjoy being a mod because you have to spend so much time on here and people always bitch so much.

The community here have the right idea, multiple mods covering many time zones would be ideal.

It would also minimize the workload on any individual mod, for the sake of keeping an eye out for the pedo troll.

Another benefit is it creates room for the natural flow of people, i.e., some mods becoming less engaging then re-engaging, such that the coverage continues.

A potential drawback is if the mods diverge strongly on 'how things ought to be' then new issues could arise, and the more mods you have the more likely this is.

As for people complaining, being a mod for a while thickens your skin to this, and you learn what's a waste of time and what isn't with regards to modding.

I think specific to KIA2, a more difficult challenge for any new mod could turn out to be balancing the community's desires and Dom's desires.

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TheConservationist 3 points ago +3 / -0

Gotcha.

I liked NNN as well, haven't been there lately.

Same with GAW, but I didn't have time to keep up with their abundant content anymore & I've become more cynical over the years which is a mismatch with their outlook.

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TheConservationist 5 points ago +5 / -0

He is also a lot less strict with rule 16 minus a few bouts of frenzied activity when he bans a bunch of people.

Noted, thank you for the clarification.

The impression I had from these threads was little-to-no-improvement over the past few months.

Granted, I don't follow this aspect as closely, nor do I watch the mod-log.

Dom has disengaged a lot because he is losing the ideological battle here as more users demand less censorship. This in turn discourages him from being here and modding us so hard. We are sort of in scenario "a".

Could be.

Giving it a bit more thought, there are two sub-outcomes of "a".

-One is Dom gets tired and leaves,

-The second is Dom becomes a mostly inactive mod but is still the only mod and with the overarching issue(s) unresolved

A related side note, as a mod I know there are times I've become less engaged, though not as a result of the community members semi-frequently criticizing me (or my fellow mods).

Rather, as a result of either being busier with other aspects of life and/or being tired of politics for a while.

We have to address this issue because we are slowly losing users the more he censors. The issue is we are losing active engaged users because there is no point in staying here if you can only talk like you're on reddit.

I think we're more in agreement here than you may have originally interpreted.

Yes, the issue has to be addressed rather than ignored.

Which is what the threads attempt to accomplish.

The problem becomes if the threads don't lead to a resolution for an extended period of time, people will leave during that time.

The manner in which the threads accelerate this (at least until a resolution is reached), is that by highlighting the issues without having them fixed, then people check out more quickly.

Hence why I suggested one possible alternative strategy.

There are probably other approaches that can be taken as well.

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TheConservationist 5 points ago +5 / -0

freecanada.win

Not hosted by Scored, though when we initially started that was the intent, hence the ".win" domain.

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TheConservationist 12 points ago +12 / -0

KIA2 is currently the online community that I spend the most time on (albeit as a lurker), aside from being an active member & mod at FCW.

As a somewhat outsider, here are my observations on the issue.

There seems to be a stalemate here between the mod & much of the community.

There are two goals many of the members here have in regards to modding:

(1) quicker bans of the pedo troll and other trolls like him, and,

(2) more hands-off modding in regards to actual political discussion

From the previous thread on this topic, Dom agreed that (1) is important.

The stalemate seems to boil down to a difference of opinions on (2), unless I'm missing something.

Dom seems reluctant to bring on more mods, and taking a guess based on what he said in a prior thread, perhaps that's because the new mod(s) might act counter to how he wants the community modded (e.g., potential abuse of power by the new mods, potential difference of opinions on what ought to be removed, etc.).

In one of the threads about this a while back, someone had offered to take on a mod role and use their mod power to only address (1), but from Dom's perspective perhaps that could still serve to open the door for someone to act against his wishes once they have mod powers.

Those wanting Dom to be replaced by the Scored admins aren't likely to have much success. We went through that with Ham on Omega, and it's why FCW was created instead.

Some ways this could play out:

(a) Dom himself could decide that he no longer wants to be here and leave,

(b) Dom & the community find a way to peacefully co-exist (at minimum this would probably require at least one new mod being appointed whom is mostly hands-off),

(c) the community slowly dwindles in membership, or,

(d) the members create a new community.

I could be misjudging the situation, but from my perspective, if things remain as they currently are, then (c) seems most likely, followed by (d).

As a side note, I don't think continuously making new threads about this is going to have the desired effect, and without anything else happening to resolve the issue, these threads will probably serve to accelerate outcome (c).

Perhaps an alternative would be to come up with a list of potential mods whom are willing and are agreeable to both most of the community along with Dom.

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TheConservationist 22 points ago +22 / -0

I've wondered if we get so much out of Loudoun because people are aware of it and thus focusing on exposing it more.

In other words, is Loudoun an extreme case, or, close to the norm?

by folx
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TheConservationist 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is fake.

There were photos of this teacher early on, comparing to a "different" teacher from Sandy Hook. The two people looked awfully alike.

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TheConservationist 2 points ago +2 / -0

This meme was around last year, or a very similar version to it.

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TheConservationist 3 points ago +3 / -0

The point of using it in this context is to tie the current story ('border control'), back to the issue they really want to focus on ('disinformation'), and frame it in such a way to push their desired narrative with that other issue ('disinformation').

They'll do this with many stories/issues, until they move on from that particular focus for a while.

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TheConservationist 3 points ago +3 / -0

Prodigal Son was good til the third season.

Then the tone completely changed (following the BLM "summer of love"), it went racial SJW to a very high level. Couldn't get past the first episode of that season.

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