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"The whole movie is a Trojan Horse" -- Jonathan Pageau's Review of "The Odyssey" (www.youtube.com)
posted 5 days ago by Prof_Chaos 5 days ago by Prof_Chaos +13 / -0
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– horstshort 14 points 5 days ago +14 / -0

They throw together a decent movie and make it woke.

It's only considered "decent" because people have absolutely no standards. Look at Dunc. Both movies are not just wokified but are also simply terrible. People praise the first Dunc when it's actually an incredible boring and badly written movie. Visually impressive shots with boring visuals as paradoxical that may sound. Everything has a brutalist design. Everything is a variation of grey and brown. No color whatsoever. And yet people still praise that heap of garbage.

Uuuh explosions uuuuh forgettable Hans Zimmer soundtrack uuuh stupid chanting uuuh ten thousand shots of sand and Zendaya dream sequences. 10/10 movie!

And do not get me started on how that French cunt absolutely obliterated the story. Calling these movies Dune is even more ridiculous than calling Ellen Page a man.

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– cccpneveragain 6 points 5 days ago +6 / -0

If you mean that 2021 Dune movie, no kidding it's terrible. I haven't read the book since I was a kid, but it can't be as bad as that movie. I fell asleep, and I can suffer some slow movies. Lots of older movies are slow and light on action, yet in a lot of cases manage to keep attention. Dune was just boring and ugly.

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– horstshort 8 points 5 days ago +8 / -0

I haven't read the book since I was a kid, but it can't be as bad as that movie.

Considering that the French cunt stripped everything that makes Dune Dune from the story, no it's not. It is quite literally not Dune and anyone who says the opposite should be locked up in an insane asylum.

Even the very foundation of the story isn't explained. What is spice and why is it and Dune so vitally important? If you've only watched the movies you won't know the answer. 1984 Dune explained more in the first 5 minutes than those two movies did in their whole 5 fucking hours of runtime.

People like to shit on Lynch's version but that movie actually feels and looks like Dune and is actually fun even if it takes a lot of liberties with the story. The fan cut fixes quite a few of those liberties and turn the movie from a bad adaption (story wise) into quite a decent adaption while the mini series remains the only great adaption of Dune.

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– covok48 1 point 5 days ago +1 / -0

If you think that Dune movie was bad, the 1984 version was the worst movie ever made.

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– throwawayaccount2037 2 points 4 days ago +2 / -0

Kyle MacLachlan was absolutely brilliant in the role -- he came in with a sense of mischievous wonder. It was a tough role to pull off to both portray a character who understands the world but has a sense of awe and wonder about how it works so he's both explaining to the audience and being explained to by other characters the necessary information the audience needs to know in order to understand the worldbuilding.

That movie was actually pretty good, whether you've read the books or not, because it setup the baseline for what you needed to understand within that sci-fi universe and kept the pace moving at a rapid clip to try to get everything in as quickly as possible within its runtime.

There were issues for sure, but there were some absolutely epic moments, too. Paul riding in on the Shai-Hulud near the end was cinematic mastery.

Plus, Sting was cool in that flick -- he didn't have to say or do much to come across as a right sodding prick in that film, and it worked.

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– horstshort 2 points 4 days ago +2 / -0

May your sleeves always get wet when washing your hands.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

Huh I kinda liked the first 2 parts, but I already know the story.

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– LastRights 3 points 4 days ago +3 / -0

It's an example of atmospheric 'slow cinema', similar to Bladerunner 2049. Both have rotten 'woke' cores, but people can 'experience' the story just the same if they looked past all the ham-fisted woke creative decisions, typically involving feminist themes.

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– horstshort 2 points 4 days ago +2 / -0

What story? There is no story in Dunc. There is no story in Odyssey. The story was butchered and discarded.

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– LastRights 1 point 4 days ago +1 / -0

There is a story in Dune. It's just minimalistic as typical for 'slow cinema'.

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– horstshort 1 point 4 days ago +1 / -0

I disagree. Duncs story is not minimalistic. It's non-existant. A movie like The Lighthouse has a minimalistic story. The Astartes mini series has a minimalistic story. Minimalistic stories still have substance. Dunc doesn't have any substance whatsoever. Not in its story nor in its visuals. Great cinematography yes but that's it.

Dunc tells as much of a story as a toddler that hasn't learned how to speak yet. They're both just babbling on without any rhyme or reason.

Also Dunc isn't slow cinema either. Because half of the scenes in that movie serve no purpose. It's just "Oh look pretty visuals!" and "OH LOOK IT'S FUCKING ZENDAYA AGAIN FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME DESPITE HER NOT BEING PART OF THE MOVIE!"

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– CaptainTrouble 1 point 5 days ago +1 / -0

Yeah, you're right.

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