This is a branch-off from another topic but I felt this deserved its own topic.
Over the 150 years we had asylums, about 1m people were locked up against their will (in Canada. It's a very rough estimate because the actual numbers don't exist, of course). About 95% of the people locked up against their will were White people. This was basically a holocaust against White people by our government. Total number of residential school students? 150,000.
Where's the memorials for the asylum victims? Why isn't this taught in schools about the atrocities committed against White people by our government? Where's the national holiday? The Canadian government eventually admitted wrong-doing in the 2010. A good 32 years after the program officially ended. What they did to the people in asylums pales in comparison to anything they did in residential schools.
The government of Canada has paid $15b to Native Indians for reparations over Residential Schools and only paid $3.6b in reparations to survivors of asylums. Also, the reparations are upwards of $60b to Native Indians if you include the programs the government implemented as successors to be reparations) 150,000 total people versus 1m. How is this justice?
I made an interesting discovery on the asylum subject. A question many people ask is where did the idea even come from, why did it exist for the specific period it did, why was it global and why did it end nearly at the same time everywhere. What exactly was going on? Well, here's something to consider: Ever hear about the Tartaria Conspiracy Theory? The idea is that Old World Buildings made of stone were existing structures from a past civilization (Tartaria) and we inherited them rather than built them. People who knew the truth were thrown into asylums to hide the truth. This theory is probably not something you agree with but it got me thinking. We built all these beautiful and hand-carved stone structures in abundance and quite easily in short period of time and then abruptly stopped. What happened to all the master masons? They went from a high-paid in-demand skilled worker to nothing over night? That ought to have a pretty big impact on one's psyche... Why didn't we hear about the worker outrage over this lost industry? It wouldn't just be the direct workers either... all the people in the quarries, all the supply-chain people, all the architects specializing in those buildings, etc... If any major industry just stopped abruptly, we'd probably hear something about it. There were literally wars over the mechanization of farming ending that industry as we once knew it. Well, it just so happens that asylums were big in NA and Europe nearly the exact same time both societies started cutting down their stone construction and the asylums peak at exactly the same time stone production stopped altogether in NA and was at its lowest in history in Europe (Europe never killed it off completely and there has since been a resurgence). Many of the asylum victims were described as "transient laborers". The number of people tied to the stone-industry that was killed mostly completely in NA was well into the hundreds of thousands.
Basically, my idea is that governments were probably seeing a lot of skilled workers losing their jobs around this period of time as they were transitioning a lot of their industries from traditional methods to the new methods and asylums were developed as a means to house a lot of the people who had become destitute from the changing economy. I imagine many people tied to the stone industry found other work but I bet a lot didn't. For many, it was all their knew and all they ever wanted to know. Stonemasers in particular were a different breed. Most of their work was passed down verbally from master-to-apprentice. There was literally no real solid publicly available books (in English) on masonry until the mid 1800s yet the industry had been around for thousands of years. Stonemasons were extremely philosophical and believed their work had higher purpose/meaning than just carving some stones. The early books on stone masonery we did end up getting have tons of chapters dedicated to geometry and natural laws that almost reads like some esoteric spell book at times. There's a reason the Freemasons are what they are known for (being connected to every esoteric conspiracy theory ever) even though they started as a simply a guild for stone masons. If any group was going to be upset at their industry being killed, it would be the stone masons but I don't remember hearing about the stone mason uprising in my history books. I think a lot got thrown into asylums.
The next time someone discusses Residential Schools you should bring up the atrocities of Mental Asylums and the lack of proper response to them from our government.
Upwards of 150 years ago 95% of Canadia (where Canadians come from) was White.
How about all the White kids in the regular school system?
We act like the First Nations were mistreated but it was no different that any other Canadian boarding schools, especially if you didn't speak English.
The vast majority of deaths occured when the schools were on the Reserves, because the Reserves were shitholes; the death rates at the schools were no higher than the surrounding community. That's right from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission report, volume 4.
Lol
https://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2015/trc/IR4-9-4-2015-eng.pdf
Hey remember that time that the government used residential schools as a nutrition experiment? Not saying it doesnt happen to white people, white mental patients were used in mk ultra experiments.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/unreserved/how-food-in-canada-is-tied-to-land-language-community-and-colonization- 1.5989764/the-dark-history-of-canada-s-food-guide-how-experiments-on-indigenous-children-shaped-nutrition-policy-1.5989785
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/mk-ultra-depatterning-lawsuit-montreal-experiments-cia-1.7598486
:shrugs: Back to your original point.
So kinda? Really strange you can quote where this information comes from but you cant remember what it says. I know, its alot to read you prolly dont want to read it.
I also find it strange that it should matter which side got raped and fucked the most, we shoudl both be united in the fact that the elite/rich are fucking monsters. And always have been.
As for compensation, indians got so fucked in the process, its hard to deny that they dont deserve it. You think indians are swindling your money, its fucking politicians passing these ridiculous things and then reaping the profits of it. You guys are being steered like cattle.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/indigenous-business-procurement-committee-1.7362837
But sure, hating indians is going to fix the corruption in your leaders, keep wishing anyway.
That's fine. I'm glad our demographics were that but it was still an atrocity committed against White people.
You're not even trying to be subtle. Literally username checks out. What is it with grievance accelaration threads as of late?
What are you labeling as "grievance acceleration" threads?
Anything that screams victimhood narrative for anyone non-brown.
This is why "bring back asylums" while a good immediate solution is just shallow thinking.
You don't want the government to be able to declare you "ill" and lock you up indefinitely.
It's a confusion of the problem, and the likely solutions v the ideal solution.
Libertarians who posture like this and have no understanding of anything beyond phrases no more complex than "government bad" deeply deserve everything bad that happens to them.
What IS the solution then, other than free range lunatics? I genuinely want to hear your take because I have started to type out 2 COAs and realize they won't work halfway through drafting them. Which is the more direct threat and more likely to happen, the government going after you (general sense) specifically for this or some psychopath out in the wild accosting you in some way?
In a nutshell, asylums with free access to members of the public to view to prevent abuses. Genuinely nuts people won't care they're being watched. And being watched is great to filter out people that shouldn't be in there, as well as providing a theoretical protection against abuse.
Yes I know the natural response to this would be to howl that I'm creating a human zoo. But there is a need for some people to be removed from society despite having committed no crime. And there is an equal need to monitor it to theoretically provide monitoring to abuses.
I can see how transparency would help, as I'm sure it could be applied to retirement homes presently. I spent some time working inpatient during my clinicals, which I guess is the closest thing you can get to a modern day asylum, for the most part. I remember learning that 72hrs was the max you could hold someone (could be extended by a judge every 3 days, if needed) and I always thought "holy shit, that isnt long enough" after rounding and interacting with some of these people. Ironically, people with borderline personality disorder scare me more than the schizophrenia, mainly because they are able to blend to a degree.
Yeah I think that the public access will actually not even help as much as people think. Once the novelty wears off, why would anyone go? People don't visit their relatives in nursing homes so why would they visit relatives in asylums? It's theoretically be possible to investigate though which would hopefully be a deterrant.
Ironically, the people who cause the most damage to society aren't the ones they'd be locking up anyway. The trannies being the prime example. In my experience, people schizoaffective disorder or schizophrenia were never really that much of a threat to anyone but themselves, I cant recall seeing one lash out unless forced to do something they really didnt want to (like taking meds). Borderline gets thrown around a lot, but it is pretty rare. I have only had a handful of patients who truly had BPD. It is a feeling you will never forget. A sense of dread will wash over you when they're in the room with you and you have the urge to escape the room anyway you can. They are also manipulative and will say just the right thing to stay in the room with you usually, just because they can and like the control. Female BPD patients are more annoying than males, they are particularly scary because of their mood lability and the sheer physical force they have compared to women.
I want to hear the answer too, because as far as I can tell there isn't one. Locking up the insane is one of the few legitimate purviews of government, because regardless of what the corrupted laws and tyrannical judiciary says, there is no moral right whatsoever to be a blood hungering maniac or incurably violent retard.
reparations are a total scam when paid to descendents and relatives. I could see the argument for paying out to direct children of the victims, but anything beyond that is just a grift.
There was also the Foreign Orphan Adoption program in Canada (I forget the exact title) that ran at exactly the same time as the Residential schools. It too had roughly 150,000 orphans brought to Canada from the UK & placed in families. City or farm, they were officially adopted & little to zero follow-up was done.
While many lived happy lives, others were treated as farmhands or maids... or far worse.
But it's the same for the Residential schools: most kids got an education & were happy. A far too large a % were abused, but it wasn't all of them. It is illegal for Residential "survivors" to say they had no problem & were glad they went. They are barred from ever speaking positively about it.
How about the Dukabohrs (sp?; essentially Russian/Ukrainian Amish). The government straight took their children against their will and forced them into schools; no one every talks about them.
Absolutely correct!
If leftists didn't have double standards? They'd die from their own duplicity.
This is an interesting idea. I wonder if there's any correlation between Church construction and the purges of the Knights Templar as well?
Now instead of mental asylums, lunatics wander around the streets doing drugs and assaulting people.
Drugs provided by the government.
Many of the occupants of these mental asylums werent men though, it was women, for a multitude of reasons.
Just pulling this from google answers but it sums up what i know.
As for the stonecutters. I suppose they disappeared around the time of the machine age.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kznGd-drmZA
We have machines to do all this heavy work, but we lose detail, craftmanship, etc in the process.