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Hitler's "Big Lie" in action - Engadget: Starfleet Academy is the best first season of a Star Trek show ever (archive.is)
posted 103 days ago by YesMovement 103 days ago by YesMovement +17 / -0
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– Belenus 18 points 103 days ago +18 / -0

That'll be why it's getting cancelled already, right?

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– YesMovement [S] 7 points 103 days ago +7 / -0

They already filmed s2, if Paramount's smart they'll cancel it and take the tax breaks.

Word is they're trying to pitch "Star Trek:Year One" a spinoff of SNW with Kirk/Spock as a prequel of TOS with the TOS crew's 1st year on the Enterprise. Kurtzman's contract expires this year, they have s4&5 of SNW filmed. Hopefully that's the end of Woke Trek.

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– TheKidsAreAltRight 12 points 103 days ago +12 / -0

Sounds like Kurtzman is desperately trying to find a gig because he's not only running out of material he can squeeze in between existing media, but also a lot of the newer shows are falling flat because nobody actually likes or watches them.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 15 points 103 days ago +15 / -0

Hitler never had a "Big Lie."

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– ParadigmShift2070 6 points 102 days ago +6 / -0

I think it's what he'd call the media when they try to gaslight people

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 5 points 102 days ago +5 / -0

It was the Jews' Big Lie. The Nazis just described it.

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– CatoTheElder 5 points 102 days ago +5 / -0

https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb29.htm

That is of course rather painful for those involved. One should not, as a rule, reveal one’s secrets, since one does not know if and when one may need them again. The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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– YesMovement [S] 4 points 103 days ago +4 / -0

That's admittedly not a high bar to clear.

While most modern (I mean TNG-VOY) Trek shows did struggle with their 1st seasons the idea that they were overall terrible is a recent reimagining not really based in fact.

Let's take a quick look at every 1st season of Trek:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series_season_1

TOS is the odd man out because many consider that the BEST season of the series.

The 1st ep "The Man Trap" is pretty good, as is the actual pilot "Where No Man Has Gone Before". You also have tons of classic eps like "The Menagerie", "Balance of Terror", "The Galileo Seven", "The Squire of Gothos", "Arena", "Space Seed", "The Devil in the Dark" & "The City on the Edge of Forever".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation_season_1

TNG is where this concept started because there was admittedly some bad shit in it with "Code of Honor" considered maybe the worst TNG ep ever...although a lot of that is because of modern "muh raycism" (it does absolutely suck irregardless of that). But it has 6-8 eps I'd consider range from "pretty good" to "really great".

"Encounter at Farpoint" is pretty good and establishes major characters well. "The Battle", "Hide And Q", "The Big Goodbye", "11001001", "The Arsenal of Freedom", "Conspiracy" & "The Neutral Zone" I consider pretty great. "Datalore" had some really cringe shit (The "shut up Wesley" scene is retarded but it also ruined Wil Wheaton's life so I give it a pass). There's a bunch of mid eps and a few stinkers- I think "The Last Outpost" & "Justice" gets unfairly shit on but other than Code & maybe Angel One & Symbiosis there's nothing really atrocious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek:Deep_Space_Nine_episodes#Season_1(1993)

I haven't watched a lot of these in a long time DSN had good-great eps like "Emissary", "Captive Pursuit", "The Nagus", "Progress", "Duet" & "In the Hands of the Prophets".

"Move Along Home" was bad but gets targeted because of the out of context hopscotch by Woke Trek fans looking to attack the classic series. "The Storyteller" & "If Wishes Were Horses" were pretty bad too, people attack Q-Less but I think that's more because Q didn't have the chemistry with anyone like he did Picard & crew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek:Voyager_episodes#Season_1(1995)

I actually just recently rewatched this although I had it on while cleaning etc so wasn't paying total attention.

For good-great you have "Caretaker", "Time and Again", "Phage", "Eye of the Needle", "Prime Factors" and "State of Flux".

For worst you have the Beowulf ep (which I don't think is as terrible as people remember honestly, it was mid-90s TV scifi) and "Ex Post Facto". I liked "Learning Curve" although some hate it and it doesn't stand out as a season finale. Honestly rewatching the show while there wasn't a whole lot of exciting stuff nothing was outright terrible and I haven't seen anything as bad as SA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Enterprise_season_1

This is the one I've seen the least but for good-great you have "Broken Bow", "The Andorian Incident", "Cold Front", "Dear Doctor", "Shuttlepod One" & "Shockwave, Part I". I enjoyed "Acquisition" but some hate it because of potential canon issues.

For bad you have "Terra Nova", "Unexpected" (men can't get pregnant!!), "Silent Enemy", "Rogue Planet" but at least they felt like Star Trek. Again I didn't see anything in Enterprise, s1 or otherwise, that was nearly as bad as SA.

Discovery s1 sucked but so did s2 and every other season. Haven't watched any other modern Trek to comment but honestly I doubt any of them could be as bad as the "best" of SA.

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– Smith1980 7 points 103 days ago +7 / -0

Encounter at Far Point also had a great cameo by Bones. Remember after the Last Jedi they tried pushing the idea that Empire Strikes back was a hated movie

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– Wizardslayer 2 points 102 days ago +2 / -0

That was hilarious. They were trying to pitch that most middle movies in trilogies are hated and Empire is hated by the fans and not the most popular of the 3.

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– TheKidsAreAltRight 5 points 103 days ago +5 / -0

Tried typing up a reply, fucked up by refreshing the page.

I liked Terra Nova, didn't enjoy Acquisition. Former was an interesting Roanoak like investigation, while the latter felt like cheesy fan service and even the showrunners admit it wasn't a good idea in hindsight, let alone because Neelix was one of the guest starring Ferengi.

As for Trip getting pregnant, that's more to do with alien biology messing up humans, and for whatever reason Trip became the punching bag for such things which also didn't help the relationship drama he had with T'Pol.

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 2 points 102 days ago +2 / -0

It's also understandable that the first season of TNG struggled. Having to write a sequel to TOS fifteen years later, in the midst of some extreme technological leaps and political changes, is obviously going to take some work. NuTrek has no excuse. TV isn't new, tech has slowed down significantly, and they've got decades of storytelling to work off of. Even if it was true that NuTrek only sucks because of the mythical season 1 curse, it would still be a much bigger failing on their part.

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– Haterjuiced 3 points 103 days ago +3 / -0

Nobody believes that they must be trolling...

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– YesMovement [S] 2 points 102 days ago +2 / -0

No they're trying to establish their absurd lie that this awful & unpopular dogshit is somehow true, they hope people will believe it.

Meanwhile conservatives won't even offer faint praise to say Kirk Cameron movies, we pretty much all admit they suck. Daily Wire got mocked for making Lady Ballers, and absolutely roasted for them trying to claim it was some great comedy akin to Dodgeball (which itself wasn't considered some amazing classic comedy like Happy Gilmore, Caddyshack, Slap Shot, Major League, etc- just seen as a pretty funny movie).

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– Skywise 2 points 103 days ago +2 / -0

Super green!

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