In the case of Nowrasteh, he's not trying to make a clear point but is instead trying to bunker down on deconstructing a target.
He's argue "white identity" is something too abstract to be harmed in any real way, yet if you asked him about his ancestors fleeing the holocaust based on their jewish nationality, he'd turn around and defend their unique right to that tribal behavior.
This argument actually goes way back all the way to Albert Einstein and other post-emancipation philosophers in Europe.
Einstein was asked if he was a German or a Jew, and expressed contempt for the idea of German identity, or American identity, essentially because those peoples are too "mongrelized", in contrast to his abstract but highly regarded tribal identity
Do you look upon yourself as a German or as a Jew?"
It is quite possible," Einstein replied, " to be both. I look upon myself as a man. Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
"How then," I said, "do you justify Jewish nationalism?"
" I support Zionism," Professor Einstein replied, "in spite of the fact that it is a national experiment, because it gives us Jews a common interest. This nationalism is no menace to other peoples. Zion is too small to develop imperialistic designs."
Then you do not believe in assimilation?
We Jews," Einstein replied, have been too adaptable. We have been too eager to sacrifice our idiosyncrasies for the sake of social conformity."
Race, at least, constitutes a larger unit. Nevertheless. I do not believe in race as such. Race is a fraud. All modem people are the conglomeration of so many ethnic mixtures that no pure race remains."
" Do you," I remarked, "look upon religion as the tie which holds the children of Israel together?"
" I do not think," Einstein replied thoughtfully, " that religion is the most important clement. We are held together rather by a body of tradition, handed down from father to son, which the child imbibes with his mother's milk."
"The atmosphere of our infancy predetermine our idiosyncrasies and predilections. When I met you, I knew I could talk to you freely without the inhibited which make the contact with others so difficult. I looked upon you not as a German nor as an American but as a Jew."
All of this rambling was a long winded way of arguing for a double standard.
"Mothers milk" is understood in modern times to mean biological hereditary elements.
That's fucked up. He wanted to argue European identity can't exist because too much biological mixture between tribes of Europeans. But makes a more philosophical argument for jewish identity based on passed down traditions?
How can European identity not be passed down by tradition, father to son? What is it about jews and their convoluted concept of "whiteness?"
Is it just a linguistic game to other white people without explicitly saying white(European, especially German) people are uniquely evil?
You mean to tell me that a nomadic tribe of hopelessly rootless cosmopolitans has no concept of familiarity or ability to bond with their immediate enviourment? What a surprise...
That's fucked up. He wanted to argue European identity can't exist because too much biological mixture between tribes of Europeans. But makes a more philosophical argument for jewish identity based on passed down traditions?
It is incredibly fucked up and absurdly hypocritical.
But it is so mind blowing to think that an "intellectual" like him could make that argument with a straight face you wouldn't believe it if I didn't directly quote him.
How can European identity not be passed down by tradition, father to son? What is it about jews and their convoluted concept of "whiteness?"
Because in their minds we need to follow their standards and definitions for a culture, one of the big values (from their POV) is distinct writing systems and language, and so on
Anyways, historically western peoples had an identity somewhat intertwined with the state, without a separate series of cultural controls explicitly demanding certain ethnic-cultural traits (language, traditions, endogamy, etc)
"Globalism" is essentially state mandated nomadism, which just marginalizes the (pro social) cultures of settled people in favor of rootless nomads
One distinction I will make with some people in the "aunty semite" camp is they hyper focus on stuff like the Talmud or whatever, when the bigger issue is a combination of nomadism with middle-man minorities
Jewish people aren't all nomads, they aren't all middle-man minorities, and nomads/middle-man minorities aren't exclusively jewish
A lot of other conflicts abroad come from nomads, like Kurdish tribes over running Arab villages in the ME, or Fulani nomads in Africa (now famous due to nigerian christian villages being pillaged), or Romani/"Gypsies" in Europe. Gypsies have their own term of "anti-Ziganism", considered worse than other forms of racism (sound familiar?)
Even the migrant crisis in Europe has this tendency. I hate mass migration, but the idea that all foreigners conspire to flood white countries is also retarded. It's surprisingly common in forums for North Africans to observe behavior in Europe and be embarassed, and refer to their "fellow Moroccans" as "literal animals", or use other slurs, because open doors essentially invites the shittiest/worst nomadic parts of Moroccan society.
Jewish people aren't all nomads, they aren't all middle-man minorities, and nomads/middle-man minorities aren't exclusively jewish
My ex-wife had me read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn, so I have a beginner insight into the neo-tribalism movement. And given "Nomadland" was a thing a couple years ago, it seems like the belief is looking for a moment.
The thing you have to understand with these people is how mind games work.
They disagree with a concept being expressed, so instead of directly making their stupid argument, they form a convoluted argument and gaslighting.
It is very similar to the Talmudic argument practice in certain Jewish sects called "Pilpul".
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-is-pilpul-and-why-on_b_507522
In the case of Nowrasteh, he's not trying to make a clear point but is instead trying to bunker down on deconstructing a target.
He's argue "white identity" is something too abstract to be harmed in any real way, yet if you asked him about his ancestors fleeing the holocaust based on their jewish nationality, he'd turn around and defend their unique right to that tribal behavior.
This argument actually goes way back all the way to Albert Einstein and other post-emancipation philosophers in Europe.
Einstein was asked if he was a German or a Jew, and expressed contempt for the idea of German identity, or American identity, essentially because those peoples are too "mongrelized", in contrast to his abstract but highly regarded tribal identity
https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/wp-content/uploads/satevepost/what_life_means_to_einstein.pdf
All of this rambling was a long winded way of arguing for a double standard.
"Mothers milk" is understood in modern times to mean biological hereditary elements.
That's fucked up. He wanted to argue European identity can't exist because too much biological mixture between tribes of Europeans. But makes a more philosophical argument for jewish identity based on passed down traditions?
How can European identity not be passed down by tradition, father to son? What is it about jews and their convoluted concept of "whiteness?"
Is it just a linguistic game to other white people without explicitly saying white(European, especially German) people are uniquely evil?
You mean to tell me that a nomadic tribe of hopelessly rootless cosmopolitans has no concept of familiarity or ability to bond with their immediate enviourment? What a surprise...
Locusts don't plant seeds.
Almost like if you have a high body count you can't pair bond.
It is incredibly fucked up and absurdly hypocritical.
But it is so mind blowing to think that an "intellectual" like him could make that argument with a straight face you wouldn't believe it if I didn't directly quote him.
Because in their minds we need to follow their standards and definitions for a culture, one of the big values (from their POV) is distinct writing systems and language, and so on
Anyways, historically western peoples had an identity somewhat intertwined with the state, without a separate series of cultural controls explicitly demanding certain ethnic-cultural traits (language, traditions, endogamy, etc)
"Globalism" is essentially state mandated nomadism, which just marginalizes the (pro social) cultures of settled people in favor of rootless nomads
One distinction I will make with some people in the "aunty semite" camp is they hyper focus on stuff like the Talmud or whatever, when the bigger issue is a combination of nomadism with middle-man minorities
Jewish people aren't all nomads, they aren't all middle-man minorities, and nomads/middle-man minorities aren't exclusively jewish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middleman_minority
A lot of other conflicts abroad come from nomads, like Kurdish tribes over running Arab villages in the ME, or Fulani nomads in Africa (now famous due to nigerian christian villages being pillaged), or Romani/"Gypsies" in Europe. Gypsies have their own term of "anti-Ziganism", considered worse than other forms of racism (sound familiar?)
Even the migrant crisis in Europe has this tendency. I hate mass migration, but the idea that all foreigners conspire to flood white countries is also retarded. It's surprisingly common in forums for North Africans to observe behavior in Europe and be embarassed, and refer to their "fellow Moroccans" as "literal animals", or use other slurs, because open doors essentially invites the shittiest/worst nomadic parts of Moroccan society.
My ex-wife had me read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn, so I have a beginner insight into the neo-tribalism movement. And given "Nomadland" was a thing a couple years ago, it seems like the belief is looking for a moment.