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Warning: Root is useless as a Discord alternative as they explicitly defend gender identity in their community guidelines. (archive.is)
posted 132 days ago by AbleistSL 132 days ago by AbleistSL +58 / -0
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– AbleistSL [S] 16 points 132 days ago +16 / -0

I should also note archive.is had a scandal where the owner is using the site to ddos a blog in retaliation for possibly exposing them and thus putting them at risk of sanctions.

Archive.is allegedly accusing Janni Patokallio's grandfather of being a Nazi war criminal.

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– deleted 5 points 132 days ago +5 / -0
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– Stagecoach 3 points 132 days ago +3 / -0

It works for me on Brave, but archive links tend to give me trouble if I'm on VPN.

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– TheOutlaw 2 points 132 days ago +2 / -0

I've had some problems with it on Brave but I wouldn't categorically say it doesn't work. I'm open to other options but the only one I know (.org) has a history of helping bad actors memory hole things.

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– Stagecoach 5 points 132 days ago +5 / -0

I've found ghostarchive to be pretty good.

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– deleted 1 point 131 days ago +1 / -0
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– JustHereForTheSalmon 1 point 131 days ago +1 / -0

They took explicit countermeasures to break it, but I think either Brave worked around it or the admin gave up the fight.

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– LinnocenceDeLame 2 points 132 days ago +2 / -0

But but but archive is trying to archive the internet! Save our history whatever the fuck that means (as if archive.org couldn't easily be gamed)

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– TallestSkil 14 points 132 days ago +14 / -0

Gender doesn’t exist. Don’t use your enemies’ language.

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– mharmless 13 points 132 days ago +13 / -0

I don't know why you're catching heat for this, gender was for objects until relatively recently, and application to humans is almost entirely the doing of the pedophile 'sexologist' 'Dr' John Money. Humans and animals have a sex, vehicles and other objects have a gender.

Accepting leftist framing leaves them room to say that sex and gender can be different, and we should be categorically rejecting that. They can't argue for that if we don't even accept the basic premise that it exists in humans.

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– Yashimata 6 points 132 days ago +6 / -0

'Problematic' too. Is it difficult? No, it's problematic. Is it inconvenient? No, it's problematic. Is it controversial? No, it's problematic.

They're trying to conflate a dozen different words with different meanings so you never quite know what they're saying.

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– BandageBandolier 4 points 131 days ago +4 / -0

It's funny 'cause what the average NPC typically hears when someone calls something problematic is just "it's bad". The nuance is lost on them because problems aren't there for them to solve, they're just things to complain about until someone else fixes it. So why it's a problem doesn't matter to them.

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– BandageBandolier 4 points 131 days ago +4 / -0

I guess relative is relative, but gender occasionally being used as a synonym for biological sex in humans was still a pre-modern thing. When you name your grammar classes masculine and feminine it's pretty natural for someone to reverse engineer that construction in their heads and start applying it back to people when they're trying to sound fancy or are squeamish about saying sex.

It's the split from biological sex into its own category of bullshit that was partly Money's depraved contribution. Which in turn lead to a vastly increased usage.

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– sobriquet 6 points 132 days ago +6 / -0

I mean.. irc is still around. I still chat on it almost everyday. It'd be nice to see some resurgence.

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– Slop 5 points 132 days ago +5 / -0

Stoat/revolt seems like it could work but I don’t know if they do this gender nonsense. But you can self host it at least.

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– celticwhisper 3 points 132 days ago +3 / -0

I just set up an instance and am having my Discord group test it. If you're self hosting the rules are all yours (their only attempt at setting terms there is don't misrepresent your server as theirs, don't misuse branding, just basic legalese like that) - you can be the based privilege-triggering shitlord you always wanted to be and nobody can tell you no.

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– JohnDice 3 points 132 days ago +3 / -0

How’s Matrix?

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– AbleistSL [S] 6 points 132 days ago +6 / -0

Matrix routinely forces people to enter encryption keys when logging in under threat of losing history.

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– MattTheBlack 3 points 132 days ago +3 / -0

I won't give discord my ID and if they ever require it then I just won't use it all.

Telegram should capitalize on this and expand their app

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– Vivs3rdSock 8 points 132 days ago +8 / -0

Doesn't TG require your mobile number for signups? That's still going to be 1 too many data points for people.

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– deleted 1 point 131 days ago +1 / -0
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– Stagecoach 2 points 132 days ago +2 / -0

Anyone try Teamspeak?

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– AbleistSL [S] 10 points 132 days ago +10 / -0

I recently learned people hate TeamSpeak as it could get you subjected to cyberattacks if the server owner is malicious as they have your IP address.

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– Stagecoach 5 points 132 days ago +5 / -0

Having your IP address revealed isn't really much of a risk if your router is up to date.

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– MLGS 3 points 131 days ago +3 / -0

That is insanely not true for several reasons that never occurred to the people who designed the internet when it was just for 110+ IQ white people.

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– ScallionPancake 1 point 129 days ago +1 / -0

Explain.

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– Stagecoach 1 point 131 days ago +1 / -0

What reasons are those?

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– MickeySax 1 point 130 days ago +1 / -0

I would say it's more of a privacy issue than a hacking concern. I don't want my country, region, internet provider to be publicly displayed.

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– RadiateTonight 5 points 132 days ago +5 / -0

Doesn't IRC have the same problem? Anyone know if they made workarounds for that?

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– sobriquet 3 points 132 days ago +3 / -0

Depends on how the network has their servers configured. Many networks mask host names & ip addresses. Some don't. EFnet does not, and I haven't had problems in 15 years or more.

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– deleted 1 point 131 days ago +1 / -0

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