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Tucker: "I always knew science was bad...I've always been opposed to science, I've always been opposed to technology, I'm not stupid but I am convinced of that and have been my whole life, so I think I'm being vindicated in real time." (rumble.com)
posted 207 days ago by Zyxl 207 days ago by Zyxl +39 / -0
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– fauxgnaws 24 points 207 days ago +24 / -0

The topic was gain of function research and the inevitable use of AI and biotech to create deadly disease even targeting individuals.

Tucker gets hyperbolic sometimes, but I don't think even literally it's a crazy proposition.

Technology gives individuals more power, so ultimately our only options are preventing any individuals from exercising that power or regressing technology or extinction.

For some context, anybody today with a few thousand dollars and some talent can print smallpox into a live virus. Future is going to get crazy.

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– Zyxl [S] 9 points 207 days ago +9 / -0

Yep. The only solution is to roll back technology and prevent it going too far again by having informed societies and forcibly stopping others from transgressing certain boundaries

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– Graphenium 4 points 207 days ago +4 / -0

See:

The Butlerian Jihad

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– covok48 3 points 207 days ago +3 / -0

I read that whole thing.

Dune > Star Wars

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– rebuildingMyself 4 points 207 days ago +4 / -0

Yes and the risk isn't just corrupt corporations, but our enemies overseas. Places that aren't far behind us along within the tech tree figuring out how to use this power for evil rather than good.

Also have to consider places in Europe that are about to collapse into Islam inheriting all this power without having contributed to it at all. Not just nuclear arsonals but everything

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– Skywise 5 points 207 days ago +5 / -0

Vox Day has said something similar. While in general we like to think that science is the search for truth and knowledge, science as practiced today doesn't really do that. It's used for a money grab or a search for more power by evil people and in general it's driven society bonkers and away from what is real and true.

I don't agree that we should throw the baby out with the bath water and he doesn't elaborate so he might just be a luddite, but I think that's where Tucker's coming from.

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– Adamrises 6 points 207 days ago +6 / -0

While in general we like to think that science is the search for truth and knowledge, science as practiced today doesn't really do that.

Funding will always be the death of science, especially as we progressed into needing billions to trillions of dollars to hit "breakthroughs."

Nobody is going to toss the money at these people just for the good of humanity, it always will come with a catch of some kind. Usually to progress their ideology or to justify something they already intend to do. Else they wouldn't be throwing money at it to begin with.

So even without needing it to be purely malicious (even if that's often the case) and purely pragmatic, science will always be beholden to its funding source. And the people with funding are usually Governments or Wealthy Elites, the two most corrupt sources of anything and the ones who will not take "no" or "we found the opposite to be true" as an answer.

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– covok48 1 point 207 days ago +1 / -0

Vox said this?!

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– 5Cats 5 points 207 days ago +5 / -0

2 hours? No thanks.

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– Zyxl [S] 7 points 207 days ago +7 / -0

I linked to the exact point he said that

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– Vicious_snek6 4 points 207 days ago +4 / -0

it didn't work.

What time?

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– Zyxl [S] 5 points 207 days ago +5 / -0

1:57:36 https://rumble.com/v70k0q4-covid-whistleblower-predicting-pandemics-and-exposing-the-cia-and-peter-das.html?start=7055

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– 5Cats 2 points 207 days ago +2 / -0

It didn't work, it started right at the beginning.
My post had the featured link not work too, so I put it in the comments. That linked it to 5:19 as planned.

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– Zyxl [S] 3 points 207 days ago +3 / -0

It seems to go from the start in the embed but if you click the post title to open the video page then it has the right start point

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– 5Cats 2 points 206 days ago +2 / -0

You are right. The title goes to Rumble at the timestamp. The embed goes to Rumble at the start.

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– Zyxl [S] 2 points 206 days ago +2 / -0

That might be because I appear to have messed up the end of the URL somehow and unfortunately I'm unable to edit it

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– 5Cats 2 points 206 days ago +2 / -0

It did the same to me, but that was on YouTube :/ Not your fault or anything.

I put a working time-stamp link in my comments right away though. IDK how effective it was, that people found it or not.

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– ActiveLurker 6 points 207 days ago +6 / -0

niggerbrained zoomers will be the death of us all

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– Adamrises 6 points 207 days ago +6 / -0

I think there can be a middle ground between needing every video to be 30 second tiktok shorts and people not wanting to spend 2 hours on a random video.

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– ActiveLurker 3 points 207 days ago +3 / -0

I guess that's fair, but I'm a huge proponent for 1.75x speed viewing at minimum.

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– ParadigmShift2070 1 point 207 days ago +1 / -0

I've watched videos at 2x for so long, sometimes the settings reset to normal speed and I wonder why people sound like slow retards

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– RadiateTonight 2 points 207 days ago +2 / -0

Ironically if we had the right A.I programs they could do the job of watching and summarizing for you.

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– 5Cats 2 points 206 days ago +2 / -0

True that! IF they actually get to that point it would be useful. I think they're still years away though.
A tech guy I read used (iirc) Google's Ai to ask about some really old (early 90's) hard drive tech. He'd bought an antique :> The report was very interesting, about a completely different type of drive and every company name was fake, as were the links.
Did I mention he hates Ai? 😄 Well now more than ever.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 3 points 207 days ago +3 / -0

5cats is a boomer lol

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– ActiveLurker 2 points 207 days ago +2 / -0

lol

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– 5Cats 1 point 206 days ago +1 / -0

Not: I'm Gen-X.

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