Let's not forget she was the one who originally tried to build a GamerGate surveillance network with Zoey Quinn in order to dox and harass people who supported GamerGate back in the day.
As someone who dealt with her on OG KIA: This is a half truth, and that's being really fucking generous to you.
She made a naive attempt at making a database of trolls, we (original r/KiA) told and showed her why this was a bad idea (too easy to fake data/add false & malicious reports).
During this time ZQ tried to dissuade her from the project because it stepped one the toes of her own Crash Override* scheme ("You're ruining everything!"). When ZQ's attempts to talk her out of the ill-fated Social Autopsy failed, Candace's private phone number suddenly was in the hands of trolls days after Candace had given it to ZQ, and Candace was getting hate calls out the wazoo after telling ZQ she intended to keep going forward with SA, which she never did due to her KiA based education.
I feel like I've straightened you out on this before.
*DAE remember the super-cool movie hackers, OMG best movie ever, let's name a project after one of the characters, guize!
Gizortnik is so frustrating. He clearly has deep knowledge of more than one field, yet will not budge when confronted with actual facts.
I like to think one of my best attributes is that I change my mind, especially when confronted with facts. Lord knows, I started 2014 as a left of center, pro refugee athirst. I am none of those things now.
Gizortnik is often beyond the reach of facts or reason. At that point, what do you do?
I've noticed that a lot of people who don't like the direction that Candace is heading try to deliberately obfuscate the history of Social Autopsy. "But remember guys, she used to be a leftist! She's a grifter!"
It was a not-terrible idea from a teenager with noble intentions who hadn't thought through the effects and how it could be misused.
At the time I was impressed at how fast Candice did a 180 when confronted with the actual facts of the situation. After she got burned by Literally Who, Candice was very quick to accept that OG KiA actually knew what was going on.
It took guts to admit that she was 100% wrong and to flip like that. She did learn very fast when other leftist and normies were not learning at all.
I am not at all impressed by anything at all she has done since.
It is slightly amusing that she is winding up the French so hard, but that seems like top tier trolling, and that doesn't impress me anymore.
I don't think you have straightened me out on this before, but I appreciate it none-the-less. I was referring to your 2nd sentence, but I wasn't clear about the 3rd paragraph.
As someone who dealt with her on OG KIA: This is a half truth, and that's being really fucking generous to you.
She made a naive attempt at making a database of trolls, we (original r/KiA) told and showed her why this was a bad idea (too easy to fake data/add false & malicious reports).
During this time ZQ tried to dissuade her from the project because it stepped one the toes of her own Crash Override* scheme ("You're ruining everything!"). When ZQ's attempts to talk her out of the ill-fated Social Autopsy failed, Candace's private phone number suddenly was in the hands of trolls days after Candace had given it to ZQ, and Candace was getting hate calls out the wazoo after telling ZQ she intended to keep going forward with SA, which she never did due to her KiA based education.
I feel like I've straightened you out on this before.
*DAE remember the super-cool movie hackers, OMG best movie ever, let's name a project after one of the characters, guize!
Edit to add: https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4feylb/discussion_a_consolidation_of_power/
Edit 2: Electric Boogaloo: The texts are real: https://communities.win/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1AR0sJmgwD/turning-point-usa-confirms-the-c/c
It’s always nice to see one of the gamergate old heads setting the record straight.
It's not the first time I've had to do that about this topic with him.
Not going to be last time either.
Never is, especially when TP USA themselves said the texts were legit.
https://communities.win/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1AR0sJmgwD/turning-point-usa-confirms-the-c/c
Gizortnik is so frustrating. He clearly has deep knowledge of more than one field, yet will not budge when confronted with actual facts.
I like to think one of my best attributes is that I change my mind, especially when confronted with facts. Lord knows, I started 2014 as a left of center, pro refugee athirst. I am none of those things now.
Gizortnik is often beyond the reach of facts or reason. At that point, what do you do?
I like him, he is just ... ugh!
And now this dropped a little while ago: TP USA says the texts are real.
https://communities.win/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1AR0sJmgwD/turning-point-usa-confirms-the-c/c
I've noticed that a lot of people who don't like the direction that Candace is heading try to deliberately obfuscate the history of Social Autopsy. "But remember guys, she used to be a leftist! She's a grifter!"
It was a not-terrible idea from a teenager with noble intentions who hadn't thought through the effects and how it could be misused.
At the time I was impressed at how fast Candice did a 180 when confronted with the actual facts of the situation. After she got burned by Literally Who, Candice was very quick to accept that OG KiA actually knew what was going on.
It took guts to admit that she was 100% wrong and to flip like that. She did learn very fast when other leftist and normies were not learning at all.
I am not at all impressed by anything at all she has done since.
It is slightly amusing that she is winding up the French so hard, but that seems like top tier trolling, and that doesn't impress me anymore.
I don't think you have straightened me out on this before, but I appreciate it none-the-less. I was referring to your 2nd sentence, but I wasn't clear about the 3rd paragraph.