The amount of cover-ups of cover-ups is so extreme that it is not wrong to say that the entirety of the DOJ's current investigations into Obama are the result of Hillary Clinton's misconduct during the attack on Benghazi.
Trump primarily wants to grow the economy of the US, and like before, is worried about getting dragged down into complaining about past issues. The problem that people like Vance, RFK, and Tulsi see is that you can't 'move past' these people, and you have to destroy them.
Honestly, I'm willing to bet Tulsi didn't push this to get Epstein out of the news feed, but to actually re-assert pressure onto the Epstein investigation from a different angle. CIA director Brenan is going to be involved in both of these cover-ups at the same time.
Remember, Maxwell was railroaded. She's an evil sex criminal, but she was railroaded to protect her co-conspirators and is the only one sitting in prison because she got screwed. She's taken a personal afront to the fact that there's no honor among pedophiles. A lot of people from the Obama admin walked right back into the DOJ and started handling the file.
Yes, the system is rotten, but this is the problem. They've committed crimes literally everywhere. There's bloody footprints on the ceiling. They cover-up breaking the law by breaking the law. The issue is not finding enough evidence, it's about sorting out the evidence they have and making a narrative of it because there's so much. Someone worm-tonged their way into Trump's ear and told him the Dems would use the Epstein case to drag him through the mud. In reality, they are so deep in this shit that he has a plethora of choices. But it appears like some blonde retard isn't communicating that very well, and Suzie Wiles is intentionally corrupting everything she can touch.
And that's just the TLDR.
Yes the Epstein stuff is gargantuan in nature but it's like one of a dozen kaiju sized monsters in our government.
And there's a lot of crossover between the issues and the players involved. Not even conspiratorial stuff. Just legit wrong doings like fast and furious getting weapons to cartels that killed Americans, or Lois Lerners IRS targeting political dissidents. And these are big fucking deals even if they aren't as lurid as kid fucking blackmail rings.
There are a few red pill moments that if taken individually would piss off Americans but if taken collectively might actually spark violent unrest. It's just that these are red enemas and not easy to take in. Some of this stuff is so convoluted most people throw up their hands and turn on the ballgame.
The challenge is how do we craft a narrative that's damning enough to catch all the spiders but not so overwhelming that the average American (aka a retarded juror) could understand and feel confident convicting.
Some of this stuff is so convoluted most people throw up their hands and turn on the ballgame.
It is unironically true that almost everything we are seeing has been the result of Clinton's bungling of the Benghazi raid. That's actually the origin point, and everything was basically multiple admins committing to a cover-up of a cover-up.
Hillary got a US ambassador and several CIA operators killed for her own stupidity and arrogance in Libya. Evidence of that was stored in her illegal servers in Ukraine. To cover up that scandal, Obama and Clinton tried to blame Islamophobia and YouTube. When she was pressed, she destroyed the evidence creating the deleted emails. When she was investigated for the illegal emails she wanted to make sure she got into the presidency to stay out of jail. So she corrupted the DNC process. Wikileaks revealed the existence of the email server and her corruption in the DNC. She covered that up with the Russiagate Hoax. In order to facilitate the Russiagate hoax, the DNC via Fusion GPS purchased old disinformation opposition research from John McCain from the Jeb Bush campaign. They forwarded that to the FBI, who used that to get a FISA warrant to wire-tap Trump in order to manufacture evidence to keep him from getting into office and realizing how wide the corruption in Ukraine is (and how many kickbacks they are getting, and to protect the Clinton presidency). When that failed they leaked the disinfo to the press and then used that reporting to claim that the original disinfo was legit and used it to produce a falsified FISA warrant while Trump was president and effectively tried to institute a coup to get him impeached. Upon hearing about all of this, Trump asked Zelensky in a phone call to look into the servers. This act in and of itself was used to justify his first impeachment. This is what Tulsi is talking about.
But of course, the scandal continues because the impeachment failed, so the Dems claimed that the call was actually done to... stop Joe Biden from running for President, which is what his handlers used to urge him to run. Since Tulsi destroyed Kamalla at one of the debates, they had to entirely prop him up. The only way to try and get him through despite being mostly unpopular and needing to basically destroy evidence and keep this usurpur from power they bulldozed the economy, set the country on fire in a Black National Socialist Kristallnacht, poisoned our children, allowed a bio-weapon to run rampant on the planet's population, and then completely fucked the electoral system. When people got mad about this and rioted at the capital, that was used as justification for his 2nd impeachment. I was also used as justification to declare Trump unable to run, and even rationalized why he should be stripped from the ballot.
All that, and I didn't even touch Burisma or the German oil pipeline. The government just breaks the law, to cover up breaking the law, to cover up breaking the law, to cover up breaking the law. It's exhausting.
Trump primarily wants to grow the economy of the US
I've been critical of Trump, but that's not even my point here. I'm not blaming Trump, even though he's POTUS and the buck stops with him...in theory.
No, my issue is that the government is so big and so bloated - and so dishonest - that they weren't even necessarily actively covering for Obama/Hillary. It was just the status quo. They were untouchable...until someone (maybe Trump, but probably not, maybe Tulsi, maybe Wiles, who knows) thought it would be a good distraction, and made them un-untouchable.
The knew Obama and Hillary were guilty. And hid that. Until they got orders to the contrary. That's my theory, at least. This shit doesn't just fall out of the sky. The fact that they know now, means they knew then as well.
I totally support going after them, too, for the record. But it's still a distraction, still a coverup. It's red meat for the people who wanted to see some elites go down, after Trump bungled (maybe? 4D chess isn't out of the question, I have no clue what's going on at this point) the Epstein thing.
The problem remains: It's been shown very clearly there are just some things that can't be exposed...and the fact that it seems like a bunch of pedophiles and worse are running the show and are actually untouchable, even compared to Obama...that's a big problem for the system, and trust of said system.
Even jailing Obama - which I doubt will happen - does not solve the 'pedophiles seemingly run the world, and even the President of the US can't go after them' issue. In fact, jailing Obama as a distraction just shows how important the actual masters are.
Trump dangled the Epstein thing, he has to follow through. Going after other guilty parties like Obama and Hillary is great, but doesn't solve the actual issue, and actually highlights them more.
Someone worm-tonged their way into Trump's ear and told him the Dems would use the Epstein case to drag him through the mud.
Seems to be the case, yeah.
But it appears like some blonde retard isn't communicating that very well, and Suzie Wiles is intentionally corrupting everything she can touch.
Yeah, Wiles is deep, deep, deep in this.
And I think Trump knows. It's weird he keeps calling her 'perhaps the most powerful person on the planet.' That's...odd. Strange. Bizarre.
Trump has been more cagey and indirect in a really aggressive way, particularly with the Maxwell stuff. He's being expressly non-committal which is keeping not only his opponents guessing, but all of us as well.
I don't think that it's evidence that there are people that are untouchable, I think it's more like a decentralized version of what Stalin and Saddam did. Stalin made sure that he gave orders that specific people would assassinate other people so that they would be implicated in the murders. Saddam directlyhad his own party members execute the party members he ordered purged. The utility of this means that everybody in a position of power is explicitly implicated in the same crime as everybody else, and everyone is guilty, and anyone who speaks out against the conspiracy will be targeted by the other co-conspirators who need to be silenced to protect everyone else in the conspiracy.
Except instead of murder, it's child sex trafficking. So many are guilty of allowing, ignoring, tolerating, facilitating, or participating in the conspiracy that it makes the conspiracy either permanent, or a total collapse. If you speak the truth, everyone will hunt you down because everyone is guilty. If you everyone speaks the truth, then the whole system collapses on itself and everyone loses everything. Even if you know it's true, everyone just pretends that it isn't.
I think that's really what they found. The western, rainbow-flag, version of Saddam's coup; except without a Saddam. It's just the concentration of power itself. For the cost of killing Saddam and his system, you got the rise of Al-Qaeda, and 300,000 dead Iraqis. Was the Arab Spring really worth it? If you kill the Fabian Order, what happens next?
Unfortunately, I agree with Peter Hitchens on this. Destroying Saddam's system might actually be fucking worth it from a moral stance alone. I think the destruction of the Fabian Order might actually be better than letting it continue. Even if that risks causing a French Civil War, an anti-English Intafada, an invasion of Taiwan, and a 2nd Great Depression.
I honestly wonder what evidence could make Trump back down. It has to be something he is willing to look bad with. They've opened all sorts of other evidence, so whatever is covering Epstein might actually scare Trump.
I wonder if it's not even evidence. He might have simply been given a stern talking to about who actually wears the pants, and he should get in line or...bad things happen.
Trump got a security briefing that Epstein was a Mossad honeypot that the CIA was complicit in helping.
The people on the list are patsies. They may have done naughty things with slightly underage girls (seventeen or whatever) but that was more-or-less entrapment and most of it was just stuff like massages. The scale of their crimes doesn't matter. Even clear evidence that anyone is on the list is enough to destroy them.
The right move is to rip into Israel for breaking uncountable laws and trying to leverage prominent individuals into supporting Israel over the USA.
Such a move would be foreign relations dynamite and it still wouldn't satisfy the MAGA base, who want rich people to be held accountable for the first time in history.
The MAGA base would be super satisfied with Trump going apeshit on Israel. The percentage of MAGA that is MIGA is similar to the percentage of the Tea Party that was neocon. The super minority of conservatives appearing on television (or social media) are astroturfed and not representative of the base.
I don't disagree; and Israel totally deserve to be called to task for their bullshit.
But that wasn't the campaign promise, and ripping Israel a new one wouldn't excuse Trump from not holding the rich and powerful accountable for having sex with underage girls on Epstein's island; which is what the MAGA base want to see.
They are sick to death of the rich and powerful being able to skate no matter how evil they are. There is a list of the bad guys. Why are they not held to account?
I think it's so bad that they think it could legitimately start wars, and cause a full-blown collapse of the Fabian Socialist order, and they don't have anything to replace it yet. Bongino and Patel want to save the FBI. They don't want to arrest 20% of the staff and all former senior leadership on child sex trafficking charges among other felonies.
I think if they realized the CIA, FBI, DOJ, MI5, Mossad, the entire Five Eyes network, and a massive swathe of politicians and economic leaders from all parties in all western countries were directly implicated, including the King of England, and they knew releasing the documents could cause a cascade failure of the entire globohomo order and replace it with nothing because people would be literally hanging politicians.... they'd balk.
I think either they realized that that was what was in the files, and someone told Trump that the files would just cause the Dems to fight to the death and try to drag down his presidency in new scandals. I suspect Suzie Wiles is the worm-tounge, but I think that they are scared of whole governments collapsing under the scandal.
I don't share your pessimism in this.
The amount of cover-ups of cover-ups is so extreme that it is not wrong to say that the entirety of the DOJ's current investigations into Obama are the result of Hillary Clinton's misconduct during the attack on Benghazi.
Trump primarily wants to grow the economy of the US, and like before, is worried about getting dragged down into complaining about past issues. The problem that people like Vance, RFK, and Tulsi see is that you can't 'move past' these people, and you have to destroy them.
Honestly, I'm willing to bet Tulsi didn't push this to get Epstein out of the news feed, but to actually re-assert pressure onto the Epstein investigation from a different angle. CIA director Brenan is going to be involved in both of these cover-ups at the same time.
Remember, Maxwell was railroaded. She's an evil sex criminal, but she was railroaded to protect her co-conspirators and is the only one sitting in prison because she got screwed. She's taken a personal afront to the fact that there's no honor among pedophiles. A lot of people from the Obama admin walked right back into the DOJ and started handling the file.
Yes, the system is rotten, but this is the problem. They've committed crimes literally everywhere. There's bloody footprints on the ceiling. They cover-up breaking the law by breaking the law. The issue is not finding enough evidence, it's about sorting out the evidence they have and making a narrative of it because there's so much. Someone worm-tonged their way into Trump's ear and told him the Dems would use the Epstein case to drag him through the mud. In reality, they are so deep in this shit that he has a plethora of choices. But it appears like some blonde retard isn't communicating that very well, and Suzie Wiles is intentionally corrupting everything she can touch.
It's copium, but I'll have a hit of that.
And that's just the TLDR. Yes the Epstein stuff is gargantuan in nature but it's like one of a dozen kaiju sized monsters in our government. And there's a lot of crossover between the issues and the players involved. Not even conspiratorial stuff. Just legit wrong doings like fast and furious getting weapons to cartels that killed Americans, or Lois Lerners IRS targeting political dissidents. And these are big fucking deals even if they aren't as lurid as kid fucking blackmail rings.
There are a few red pill moments that if taken individually would piss off Americans but if taken collectively might actually spark violent unrest. It's just that these are red enemas and not easy to take in. Some of this stuff is so convoluted most people throw up their hands and turn on the ballgame.
The challenge is how do we craft a narrative that's damning enough to catch all the spiders but not so overwhelming that the average American (aka a retarded juror) could understand and feel confident convicting.
It is unironically true that almost everything we are seeing has been the result of Clinton's bungling of the Benghazi raid. That's actually the origin point, and everything was basically multiple admins committing to a cover-up of a cover-up.
Hillary got a US ambassador and several CIA operators killed for her own stupidity and arrogance in Libya. Evidence of that was stored in her illegal servers in Ukraine. To cover up that scandal, Obama and Clinton tried to blame Islamophobia and YouTube. When she was pressed, she destroyed the evidence creating the deleted emails. When she was investigated for the illegal emails she wanted to make sure she got into the presidency to stay out of jail. So she corrupted the DNC process. Wikileaks revealed the existence of the email server and her corruption in the DNC. She covered that up with the Russiagate Hoax. In order to facilitate the Russiagate hoax, the DNC via Fusion GPS purchased old disinformation opposition research from John McCain from the Jeb Bush campaign. They forwarded that to the FBI, who used that to get a FISA warrant to wire-tap Trump in order to manufacture evidence to keep him from getting into office and realizing how wide the corruption in Ukraine is (and how many kickbacks they are getting, and to protect the Clinton presidency). When that failed they leaked the disinfo to the press and then used that reporting to claim that the original disinfo was legit and used it to produce a falsified FISA warrant while Trump was president and effectively tried to institute a coup to get him impeached. Upon hearing about all of this, Trump asked Zelensky in a phone call to look into the servers. This act in and of itself was used to justify his first impeachment. This is what Tulsi is talking about.
But of course, the scandal continues because the impeachment failed, so the Dems claimed that the call was actually done to... stop Joe Biden from running for President, which is what his handlers used to urge him to run. Since Tulsi destroyed Kamalla at one of the debates, they had to entirely prop him up. The only way to try and get him through despite being mostly unpopular and needing to basically destroy evidence and keep this usurpur from power they bulldozed the economy, set the country on fire in a Black National Socialist Kristallnacht, poisoned our children, allowed a bio-weapon to run rampant on the planet's population, and then completely fucked the electoral system. When people got mad about this and rioted at the capital, that was used as justification for his 2nd impeachment. I was also used as justification to declare Trump unable to run, and even rationalized why he should be stripped from the ballot.
All that, and I didn't even touch Burisma or the German oil pipeline. The government just breaks the law, to cover up breaking the law, to cover up breaking the law, to cover up breaking the law. It's exhausting.
I've been critical of Trump, but that's not even my point here. I'm not blaming Trump, even though he's POTUS and the buck stops with him...in theory.
No, my issue is that the government is so big and so bloated - and so dishonest - that they weren't even necessarily actively covering for Obama/Hillary. It was just the status quo. They were untouchable...until someone (maybe Trump, but probably not, maybe Tulsi, maybe Wiles, who knows) thought it would be a good distraction, and made them un-untouchable.
The knew Obama and Hillary were guilty. And hid that. Until they got orders to the contrary. That's my theory, at least. This shit doesn't just fall out of the sky. The fact that they know now, means they knew then as well.
I totally support going after them, too, for the record. But it's still a distraction, still a coverup. It's red meat for the people who wanted to see some elites go down, after Trump bungled (maybe? 4D chess isn't out of the question, I have no clue what's going on at this point) the Epstein thing.
The problem remains: It's been shown very clearly there are just some things that can't be exposed...and the fact that it seems like a bunch of pedophiles and worse are running the show and are actually untouchable, even compared to Obama...that's a big problem for the system, and trust of said system.
Even jailing Obama - which I doubt will happen - does not solve the 'pedophiles seemingly run the world, and even the President of the US can't go after them' issue. In fact, jailing Obama as a distraction just shows how important the actual masters are.
Trump dangled the Epstein thing, he has to follow through. Going after other guilty parties like Obama and Hillary is great, but doesn't solve the actual issue, and actually highlights them more.
Seems to be the case, yeah.
Yeah, Wiles is deep, deep, deep in this.
And I think Trump knows. It's weird he keeps calling her 'perhaps the most powerful person on the planet.' That's...odd. Strange. Bizarre.
Trump has been more cagey and indirect in a really aggressive way, particularly with the Maxwell stuff. He's being expressly non-committal which is keeping not only his opponents guessing, but all of us as well.
I don't think that it's evidence that there are people that are untouchable, I think it's more like a decentralized version of what Stalin and Saddam did. Stalin made sure that he gave orders that specific people would assassinate other people so that they would be implicated in the murders. Saddam directly had his own party members execute the party members he ordered purged. The utility of this means that everybody in a position of power is explicitly implicated in the same crime as everybody else, and everyone is guilty, and anyone who speaks out against the conspiracy will be targeted by the other co-conspirators who need to be silenced to protect everyone else in the conspiracy.
Except instead of murder, it's child sex trafficking. So many are guilty of allowing, ignoring, tolerating, facilitating, or participating in the conspiracy that it makes the conspiracy either permanent, or a total collapse. If you speak the truth, everyone will hunt you down because everyone is guilty. If you everyone speaks the truth, then the whole system collapses on itself and everyone loses everything. Even if you know it's true, everyone just pretends that it isn't.
I think that's really what they found. The western, rainbow-flag, version of Saddam's coup; except without a Saddam. It's just the concentration of power itself. For the cost of killing Saddam and his system, you got the rise of Al-Qaeda, and 300,000 dead Iraqis. Was the Arab Spring really worth it? If you kill the Fabian Order, what happens next?
Unfortunately, I agree with Peter Hitchens on this. Destroying Saddam's system might actually be fucking worth it from a moral stance alone. I think the destruction of the Fabian Order might actually be better than letting it continue. Even if that risks causing a French Civil War, an anti-English Intafada, an invasion of Taiwan, and a 2nd Great Depression.
I honestly wonder what evidence could make Trump back down. It has to be something he is willing to look bad with. They've opened all sorts of other evidence, so whatever is covering Epstein might actually scare Trump.
I wonder if it's not even evidence. He might have simply been given a stern talking to about who actually wears the pants, and he should get in line or...bad things happen.
I've heard rumours that the joint chiefs of staff told him to accept the loss in 2020 or else.
It wasn't evidence.
Trump got a security briefing that Epstein was a Mossad honeypot that the CIA was complicit in helping.
The people on the list are patsies. They may have done naughty things with slightly underage girls (seventeen or whatever) but that was more-or-less entrapment and most of it was just stuff like massages. The scale of their crimes doesn't matter. Even clear evidence that anyone is on the list is enough to destroy them.
The right move is to rip into Israel for breaking uncountable laws and trying to leverage prominent individuals into supporting Israel over the USA.
Such a move would be foreign relations dynamite and it still wouldn't satisfy the MAGA base, who want rich people to be held accountable for the first time in history.
The MAGA base would be super satisfied with Trump going apeshit on Israel. The percentage of MAGA that is MIGA is similar to the percentage of the Tea Party that was neocon. The super minority of conservatives appearing on television (or social media) are astroturfed and not representative of the base.
I don't disagree; and Israel totally deserve to be called to task for their bullshit.
But that wasn't the campaign promise, and ripping Israel a new one wouldn't excuse Trump from not holding the rich and powerful accountable for having sex with underage girls on Epstein's island; which is what the MAGA base want to see.
They are sick to death of the rich and powerful being able to skate no matter how evil they are. There is a list of the bad guys. Why are they not held to account?
I think it scared all of them.
I think it's so bad that they think it could legitimately start wars, and cause a full-blown collapse of the Fabian Socialist order, and they don't have anything to replace it yet. Bongino and Patel want to save the FBI. They don't want to arrest 20% of the staff and all former senior leadership on child sex trafficking charges among other felonies.
I think if they realized the CIA, FBI, DOJ, MI5, Mossad, the entire Five Eyes network, and a massive swathe of politicians and economic leaders from all parties in all western countries were directly implicated, including the King of England, and they knew releasing the documents could cause a cascade failure of the entire globohomo order and replace it with nothing because people would be literally hanging politicians.... they'd balk.
I think either they realized that that was what was in the files, and someone told Trump that the files would just cause the Dems to fight to the death and try to drag down his presidency in new scandals. I suspect Suzie Wiles is the worm-tounge, but I think that they are scared of whole governments collapsing under the scandal.
Honestly, I think something is replacing it, which is why they are fighting so hard to keep their power.
I think that we are on the way to replacing it, but I think there would be a power-vacuum if it fell.