Although, I don't have evidence of this but I believe the reason many kids aren't all indoctrinated is because of both a combination of genetics and "adversity".
IMO, when a young person does what he's told to do and gets rewarded for it, he rarely breaks free of the indoctrination. It's when someone does what he's told to do and then doesn't get the result he expects does he then break free of the indoctrination.
Many people here would not be here if it weren't for the fact that they faced the adversity of not having quality video games with good storylines and cute girls to play. Once video games went woke, that was a disruption (adversity) that causes people to question things.
For a lot of people, the biggest wake up calls in life are women and career or being exposed to violence/oppression.
Face it, for a lot of White guys, they went to school got indoctrinated then acted like a feminist, worked hard in school to supposedly get a good job but then women treated them like trash and they never got that good job because of DEI. This adversity now forces people to reevaluate their indoctrination BUT ability to reevaluate things requires the nature (genetics) to be able to do so adequately.
A very astute summary that describes my journey fairly well. Only when the life I had been promised didn't fall into my lap (despite me doing all the 'right' things), did I really start to question things.
For a lot of people, the biggest wake up calls in life are women and career or being exposed to violence/oppression
I was redpilled by career first and to women embarrassingly late.
It's also fuzzy where exactly the turning point came with the redpill.
I'd like to think it came before COVID, but I can't think of a seminal moment.
The most defining moments I can think of were the Floyd riots and mask mandates. Because I definitely got fooled by the psyop for the 1st 3 months or so.
The turning point for me where I realized the reality I was told was not it was June 2015 when Donald Trump said the following and I saw the speech:
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
Everyone in my social circles along with the media was saying that Trump is a racist because he called Mexicans rapists and murderers. I was dumbfounded because anyone with a basic understanding of English should realize that's not what he said at all. When I would try to use search engines to find the exact quote, I couldn't. It was all misinformation.
Up to this point, I realized the media was framing things to deceive people and misguide them. I also realized some people were deceived but it was at this moment that something triggered in my mind... Things are way worse than I realized and then from that point onwards I'd say I was truly "redpilled" and went down the rabbit hole hard.
What COVID did for me is realize how difficult it would be to change people's minds. Up until COVID, I thought I could just talk to people and convince them they've got things wrong about their worldview because of misinformation. After COVID, I realized changing people's minds on things is nearly impossible.
That Trump speech was the moment I started taking him seriously as a candidate, because that was the moment I realized the media was just outright lying about him.
"Don't bring the violence here and the ignorance here!"
....
.....
....
"Take it to the suburbs! Burn that shit down!"
I always knew that it was a game and a con, and the media couldnt be trusted. But I saw them broadly as motivated reasoners, agenda driven to emphasize what favored them and minimize what didn't. To fudge data, to clip quotes to make them seem more or less extreme.
But above all I considered them to be stupid failures, who couldn't research, were easily decieved, and couldn't actually understand what they were seeing. Theyd misinterpret statements because they were illiterate morons. Miss important informstion because they were witless dullards.
That was the moment when I saw them blatantly, obviously, purposefully, invert the truth. They KNEW she wasn't calling for peace. It wasn't thay she called for peace and it was blatantly a lie. She said the OPPOSITE of what they said she did.
I remember in my younger, more naive, days asking people not to use disparaging terms for aspergers, just because I'd seen that's what you were supposed to do regarding your identity. Being mocked and told no by people who were already on the road to the pronoun parade definitely got me thinking about why I wasn't allowed to play the game.
I was involved with a horrible BPD girl in 2013, so I immediately recognized what Zoe Quinn truly was. I’d already gone down the rabbit hole of the early manosphere by the time Gamergate kicked off and started this never ending culture war. That was followed by Trump, then covid hysteria, and finally George Floyd, all of which cemented media, academia, and entertainment as irredeemably evil.
Although, I don't have evidence of this but I believe the reason many kids aren't all indoctrinated is because of both a combination of genetics and "adversity".
IMO, when a young person does what he's told to do and gets rewarded for it, he rarely breaks free of the indoctrination. It's when someone does what he's told to do and then doesn't get the result he expects does he then break free of the indoctrination.
Many people here would not be here if it weren't for the fact that they faced the adversity of not having quality video games with good storylines and cute girls to play. Once video games went woke, that was a disruption (adversity) that causes people to question things.
For a lot of people, the biggest wake up calls in life are women and career or being exposed to violence/oppression.
Face it, for a lot of White guys, they went to school got indoctrinated then acted like a feminist, worked hard in school to supposedly get a good job but then women treated them like trash and they never got that good job because of DEI. This adversity now forces people to reevaluate their indoctrination BUT ability to reevaluate things requires the nature (genetics) to be able to do so adequately.
A very astute summary that describes my journey fairly well. Only when the life I had been promised didn't fall into my lap (despite me doing all the 'right' things), did I really start to question things.
I was redpilled by career first and to women embarrassingly late.
It's also fuzzy where exactly the turning point came with the redpill.
I'd like to think it came before COVID, but I can't think of a seminal moment.
The most defining moments I can think of were the Floyd riots and mask mandates. Because I definitely got fooled by the psyop for the 1st 3 months or so.
The turning point for me where I realized the reality I was told was not it was June 2015 when Donald Trump said the following and I saw the speech:
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
Everyone in my social circles along with the media was saying that Trump is a racist because he called Mexicans rapists and murderers. I was dumbfounded because anyone with a basic understanding of English should realize that's not what he said at all. When I would try to use search engines to find the exact quote, I couldn't. It was all misinformation.
Up to this point, I realized the media was framing things to deceive people and misguide them. I also realized some people were deceived but it was at this moment that something triggered in my mind... Things are way worse than I realized and then from that point onwards I'd say I was truly "redpilled" and went down the rabbit hole hard.
What COVID did for me is realize how difficult it would be to change people's minds. Up until COVID, I thought I could just talk to people and convince them they've got things wrong about their worldview because of misinformation. After COVID, I realized changing people's minds on things is nearly impossible.
That Trump speech was the moment I started taking him seriously as a candidate, because that was the moment I realized the media was just outright lying about him.
"With his sister.. calling for peace"
"Don't bring the violence here and the ignorance here!"
....
.....
....
"Take it to the suburbs! Burn that shit down!"
I always knew that it was a game and a con, and the media couldnt be trusted. But I saw them broadly as motivated reasoners, agenda driven to emphasize what favored them and minimize what didn't. To fudge data, to clip quotes to make them seem more or less extreme.
But above all I considered them to be stupid failures, who couldn't research, were easily decieved, and couldn't actually understand what they were seeing. Theyd misinterpret statements because they were illiterate morons. Miss important informstion because they were witless dullards.
That was the moment when I saw them blatantly, obviously, purposefully, invert the truth. They KNEW she wasn't calling for peace. It wasn't thay she called for peace and it was blatantly a lie. She said the OPPOSITE of what they said she did.
All downhill from there.
I remember in my younger, more naive, days asking people not to use disparaging terms for aspergers, just because I'd seen that's what you were supposed to do regarding your identity. Being mocked and told no by people who were already on the road to the pronoun parade definitely got me thinking about why I wasn't allowed to play the game.
I was involved with a horrible BPD girl in 2013, so I immediately recognized what Zoe Quinn truly was. I’d already gone down the rabbit hole of the early manosphere by the time Gamergate kicked off and started this never ending culture war. That was followed by Trump, then covid hysteria, and finally George Floyd, all of which cemented media, academia, and entertainment as irredeemably evil.