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Iran was an IQ test. You favorite pundits flunked. (www.youtube.com)
posted 352 days ago by dagthegnome 352 days ago by dagthegnome +12 / -0
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– ModsAreAIDS 15 points 352 days ago +15 / -0

Indeed, but not in the way he thinks. The subversive zionists all revealed themselves with no ambiguity to hide behind in the future. Bold move...

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– Kienan 13 points 352 days ago +13 / -0

Indeed, but not in the way he thinks. The subversive zionists all revealed themselves with no ambiguity to hide behind in the future. Bold move...

Both the out and out Zionists, and the grifters who flipped back and forth and then went back to Trump and waved the "Mission Accomplished" banner. A lot of people on all sides showed themselves to be pretty silly.

Ironically, the people Razor is attacking looked pretty good in all this, at least from the stance I look at things from.

Yeah, I'm going to side with the "let's not fucking bomb Iran for no reason and, yeah, this might escalate into a broader conflict and lead to American blood."

They seem to have their heads on straight.

Rare Razor L.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 351 days ago +3 / -0

I'm an out and out zionist, in that I think Israel has the right to exist.

It doesn't have the right to bomb another country for literally 0 reason.

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– Kienan 9 points 351 days ago +9 / -0

I'm an out and out zionist, in that I think Israel has the right to exist.

What does that even mean?

Israel, like all countries, has a right to attempt to exist. No one has a Right to Exist, per se.

And certainly not if you can't even do it on your own. Israel has a right to attempt to exist. We should let them do that. Without our help. They'd probably be less shitty neighbors, if they didn't have the US backing them up, too, and everything would be more peaceful.

And Zionism goes beyond that, as you know, or you'd also be whatever the equivalent would be for thinking Iran has a right to exist.

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– Grant_us_eyes 4 points 351 days ago +4 / -0

What does that even mean?

There was an active political movement post-WW1(Not, two, one) that called for Jews to actively emigrate and settle in Israel.

And it was called, well, Zionism.

They were enough of a political force in Israel pre-WW2 that they actively tried to boycott Germany and had political protests against Nazi Germany, again, all pre-WW2.

Israel wasn't just given over the Jews post-WW2 because people were being nice, after all. They'd pretty much taken the place over before then.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

What does that even mean?

Good of you to question mindless slogans that are repeated endlessly, even without realizing it as I just did.

For me, it means that I support Israel's existence. It's not threatened as of right now, but if it were, I have no problem with sending them aid to ensure their survival. Why? Because it would be chump change for Europe, while being crucial for Israel surviving.

They'd probably be less shitty neighbors, if they didn't have the US backing them up, too, and everything would be more peaceful.

They probably wouldn't be trying to dominate the region and be a hegemon, and they'd make more compromises.

And Zionism goes beyond that, as you know, or you'd also be whatever the equivalent would be for thinking Iran has a right to exist.

The flaw in that argument is that Iran has existed for 2.5 millennia. Israel was a state that was just created due to an ideological movement. They worked hard on changing my mind in the past 2 weeks, but I still think that was a good thing. Ergo, Zionist.

But what alternative definition of Zionism do you think of?

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