Not to mention this war has revolutionized the Russian military at this point into probably the most dangerous and battle hardened army on the planet.
While NATO and company stagnated over decades of desert insurgencey, the Russians have crash coursed the next stage of modern warfare and paid with it in blood.
This is why I was screeching when we started handing weapons systems over to the Ukrainians. Russia got a whole lot more out of dealing with HIMARS and the like than we got out of "field testing" them. And you know that China benefits as well, however sticky Russ-Sino relations may be.
Including the US (assuming we didn't have china to worry about and prep for), if we just took what we had and dumped it in, we could destroy russia and their military in a week. We'd take losses, don't get me wrong, but we could do it.
It's a stupid ass decision to make though, and I think the US should stay out of it. It's europes war to fight, if they want to panic about it.
They could have if Russia was really willing to take the gloves off. To put the "war" in perspective it would be like the state of Oklahoma trying to fight off the entire rest of the US military combined while China and, like, Iran were donating them some money and weapons. Yeah they could drag it out for a while and do some damage, but win? Or even survive in the long term? Absolutely laughable. Russia is bigger than the US and Ukraine is smaller than Texas.
In a few years I'd actually like to know what that was, they just kind of turned around and drove home. And no-one has any competent or realistic explanation as to what it was and why it went home.
Because they didn't seek to occupy and fight a guerrilla war in all of Ukraine. They sought to secure crimea by sea and land routes, and secure the water supplies delivered from the Dnieper river. The invasion was never about claiming a bunch of Ukrainian land. What would Russia do in kyiv anyway besides fight insurgency?
No because you saw a media promoted feint when the invasion was always about securing Crimea and the water supplies to it coming via canal from the Dnieper river.
Lol.
Remember the first weeks of the conflict when Russian columns were about to surround Kyiv and capture it any day now?
At this point, there are almost no NATO forces with teeth left. Everything has been thrown into the meat grinder, and there's almost nothing left.
All the expensive Western technology is is a force multiplier. A multiplier times 0 is still 0.
Not to mention this war has revolutionized the Russian military at this point into probably the most dangerous and battle hardened army on the planet.
While NATO and company stagnated over decades of desert insurgencey, the Russians have crash coursed the next stage of modern warfare and paid with it in blood.
This is why I was screeching when we started handing weapons systems over to the Ukrainians. Russia got a whole lot more out of dealing with HIMARS and the like than we got out of "field testing" them. And you know that China benefits as well, however sticky Russ-Sino relations may be.
Including the US (assuming we didn't have china to worry about and prep for), if we just took what we had and dumped it in, we could destroy russia and their military in a week. We'd take losses, don't get me wrong, but we could do it.
It's a stupid ass decision to make though, and I think the US should stay out of it. It's europes war to fight, if they want to panic about it.
They could have if Russia was really willing to take the gloves off. To put the "war" in perspective it would be like the state of Oklahoma trying to fight off the entire rest of the US military combined while China and, like, Iran were donating them some money and weapons. Yeah they could drag it out for a while and do some damage, but win? Or even survive in the long term? Absolutely laughable. Russia is bigger than the US and Ukraine is smaller than Texas.
In a few years I'd actually like to know what that was, they just kind of turned around and drove home. And no-one has any competent or realistic explanation as to what it was and why it went home.
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers the memoryholing.
Because they didn't seek to occupy and fight a guerrilla war in all of Ukraine. They sought to secure crimea by sea and land routes, and secure the water supplies delivered from the Dnieper river. The invasion was never about claiming a bunch of Ukrainian land. What would Russia do in kyiv anyway besides fight insurgency?
I remember Russia saying they wanted a land bridge to Crimea plus Crimea.
And that’s what they will have…
Bingo. 2014 was about Crimea. Its always been about the fleet based there and strategic control of the sea from crimea.
No because you saw a media promoted feint when the invasion was always about securing Crimea and the water supplies to it coming via canal from the Dnieper river.