Okay so id like to talk about this. Do you really think so? I've found the complete opposite. I know where I want to GO and I know the last words every character is supposed to say etc etc and it's going to be super epic and dramatic.
But getting there? Starting off with NOT that and having a believable build up is way harder to me, finding a way to balance fluff, foreshadowing, and just stuff happening without putting up big ole neon signs point at the important stuff. Cause if they miss it the ending will make no sense, but if it's obvious nobody will care.
Maybe "property" is different than story. Starts of stories are hard but ends of franchises are hard too.
Manga can be extremely fast paced with releases, often weekly, meaning artists/writers need to be spamming their own works to the point of regular burnout and health problems.
If a project is doing very well for popularity and money then there's going to be pressure to not only keep it publishing constantly but also to keep it going to maintain that money. This leads to a lot of "filler" before actual filler even gets brought up simply to stretch out the story for far longer than it should run for.
Some authors are really good at setting things up(and creating interesting settings), yet utter shit at resolving them.
As much as I hate Charlie Stross for other reasons, when I started reading his stuff, that was a consistent problem I noticed - he always wrote endings in a way that was completely anti-climatic or focused on things I didn't care about, while leaving all the good, interesting things hanging on a vine somewhere.
it really wasn't hard to make an ending for AOT. The Akatsuki no Requiem music video made a better ending for it than what we got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrQ0zZArUV8 . In the Akatsuki no Requiem music video, Eren wins and kills his friends and Paradis lives in peace but Eren lives the rest of his days in extreme torment and guilt. Though he seems to have a family of his own in this ending, probably with Historia.. (yeah historia having a baby wasn't just a useless plot point in the Akatsuki no requiem ending unlike what we got) Younger Eren sees the future Eren and wants to kill him for killing his friends but decides not to when he sees Paradis is thriving.
The author just chickened out with it, because he didn't want to be seen as supporting genocide .
I think it largely depends on if you have your story "planned" and are trying to write it with the entire rough journey already known, or if you are writing as you go.
Manga, especially shounen or long runners, are usually written basically as they are being drawn. So they are basically slowly writing themselves into corners as they progress and often times those corners are extremely bad. They might plan arcs, they might have a short term plan set up, but usually they are literally suffering under the weight of shit they said 3+ years ago that prevents them from doing what they want now.
And yeah. A property means you aren't just writing for yourself. You are beholden to publisher, editor, fan expectations etc.
Because that's another important distinction here, these stories aren't complete when they begin like say a book or a game is. They are subject to the endless whims of reactions and expectations as each chapter drops. And then subject to it again as the anime adapts it.
However, you are absolutely correct in my experience when it comes to writing as a passion/hobby. I've got all the big set pieces and payoffs ready and trying to link them together or get the story started is the struggle.
Okay so id like to talk about this. Do you really think so? I've found the complete opposite. I know where I want to GO and I know the last words every character is supposed to say etc etc and it's going to be super epic and dramatic.
But getting there? Starting off with NOT that and having a believable build up is way harder to me, finding a way to balance fluff, foreshadowing, and just stuff happening without putting up big ole neon signs point at the important stuff. Cause if they miss it the ending will make no sense, but if it's obvious nobody will care.
Maybe "property" is different than story. Starts of stories are hard but ends of franchises are hard too.
Idk just thought it was odd.
Manga can be extremely fast paced with releases, often weekly, meaning artists/writers need to be spamming their own works to the point of regular burnout and health problems.
If a project is doing very well for popularity and money then there's going to be pressure to not only keep it publishing constantly but also to keep it going to maintain that money. This leads to a lot of "filler" before actual filler even gets brought up simply to stretch out the story for far longer than it should run for.
Some authors are really good at setting things up(and creating interesting settings), yet utter shit at resolving them.
As much as I hate Charlie Stross for other reasons, when I started reading his stuff, that was a consistent problem I noticed - he always wrote endings in a way that was completely anti-climatic or focused on things I didn't care about, while leaving all the good, interesting things hanging on a vine somewhere.
it really wasn't hard to make an ending for AOT. The Akatsuki no Requiem music video made a better ending for it than what we got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrQ0zZArUV8 . In the Akatsuki no Requiem music video, Eren wins and kills his friends and Paradis lives in peace but Eren lives the rest of his days in extreme torment and guilt. Though he seems to have a family of his own in this ending, probably with Historia.. (yeah historia having a baby wasn't just a useless plot point in the Akatsuki no requiem ending unlike what we got) Younger Eren sees the future Eren and wants to kill him for killing his friends but decides not to when he sees Paradis is thriving.
The author just chickened out with it, because he didn't want to be seen as supporting genocide .
The story literally ends with Eren wiping out around 80% of humanity.
Did you read what i said?
Having not watched it, I've no idea wtf you're talking about.
I think it largely depends on if you have your story "planned" and are trying to write it with the entire rough journey already known, or if you are writing as you go.
Manga, especially shounen or long runners, are usually written basically as they are being drawn. So they are basically slowly writing themselves into corners as they progress and often times those corners are extremely bad. They might plan arcs, they might have a short term plan set up, but usually they are literally suffering under the weight of shit they said 3+ years ago that prevents them from doing what they want now.
And yeah. A property means you aren't just writing for yourself. You are beholden to publisher, editor, fan expectations etc.
Because that's another important distinction here, these stories aren't complete when they begin like say a book or a game is. They are subject to the endless whims of reactions and expectations as each chapter drops. And then subject to it again as the anime adapts it.
However, you are absolutely correct in my experience when it comes to writing as a passion/hobby. I've got all the big set pieces and payoffs ready and trying to link them together or get the story started is the struggle.