Imperial and Metric both have their value. Metric is good for very large or small numbers, so mostly math and academic. Imperial is useful for everyday scenarios and trade work, because its always focused around useful default sizes and being divisible by 2/3/4s.
The fact that they act like Imperial has no use or is inferior shows just how little actual work most of them do, or how much they pride themselves on using a tool system designed for micro and macro science for their simple baking.
Its the same with American English. Its hugely flexible to be used by a common man or idiot to accomplish so many tasks. You can bend words to mean all sorts of things, break its rules, and generally just make shit up and it'll still work quite naturally. You can learn to speak it with zero time spent studying, just embroiling into slang.
Whereas many European languages are riddled with rules and genders that you need to memorize by the thousands, and they will scoff at you if you didn't know this word you never heard before was feminine and not masculine (its an inanimate object). Sure Germans have a word for everything, by just jamming dozens of other words into something incomprehensible to say outloud.
That's the other thing. They never utilize half their own units like decimeters or mega meters.
Or how many of them actually know that 1 cc is also 1 ml?
I've found plenty of imperial fans that will say metric is useful under certain circumstances. I've never seen the reverse. And it's not because metric is perfect. It's because they are so snobby they can't stand the idea that "the American" system has any merit.
And the proof that both systems have merit is that two big nations use both: Canada and Mexico. Maybe not officially but every tradesman in those those countries uses imperial. Fact. And I'm sure chemists in Mexico use metric. A measuring system is a tool just as much as a hammer or a microscope. And just like different tools are for different jobs, so can different measuring systems.
But Europeans are so far up their own ass they can't admit this.
The irony being that it came from Europe, and then Europe switched. Just like the word "soccer".
Counter argument: most people are so retarded they know if the word decimate but don't use it correctly. People use decimate as an incorrect synonym for "annihilate" when it's to kill or destroy 1/10th. The irony being that it was designed to not over do something (to not over kill). "We want to punish these bad soldiers but we don't want to kill too many of them because we still need them. So let's only kill a small number of them as punishment. How about 1 in 10?". Fast-forward and people retardedly say "the evil robots completely decimated the city!".
I'd bet most "Metric users" don't even know Deci/Deka exist.
In my country, for some reason, people use deka when buying sliced meat at a supermarket deli counter or at the butcher. "I'll have 20 deka of that smoked ham over there please". Noone uses it in pretty much any other scenario, just this. I never understood why that is and I don't even know if any other nations do that.
Also shots (as in, alcohol) are often listed in centiliters on drinks menus, and again this is the only time anyone uses that unit.
Deka is still used in weight measurements. Usually for cooking and baking. It is old fashioned and less common than it used to be, but you still see it.
Yeah, people are 154cm because writing "15dm and 4cm" is gay and retarded. And 1m 5dm and 4cm even more so.
Also I don't really see how "this system of measurement has so many subsections, it can afford to loose 90% of them for everyday life and no one will suffer any form of detriment from it and even then it's still relatively easy to remember because the conversion number is always a factor of 10" is inferior to "our units of measurement have like 5 subsections that are all wildly different numbers and our smallest unit is still so big that we need to start writing it out in fractions, because inventing a smaller subsection means the Eurofags win".
You mean like when we write 6'3" for our height instead of 76 inches? Seems to work fine over here. I mean, if you want to write it in the most nonsensical way to make it seem retarded you did fine, but I think 1.54m probably would accomplish everything.
inferior
I never said it was inferior. My entire original point was people acting like one is inferior to the point of not having value is retarded. Which is something almost all Metric users seem to believe, while almost all of us in Imperial land do just fine with using both as per needed when they are most useful.
smallest unit is still so big that we need to start writing it out in fractions
Except this isn't true, we have those units. They just don't see common usage, because Imperial also suffers from the same issue of people sticking with their preferred nomenclature to a point where most people forgot other units. Like the "hand" which is 1/3rd of a foot or the "barleycorn" which is 1/3rd of an inch. Or the "chain" and "furlong" which come between yard and mile. The naming isn't standardized, but all forms of Imperial come from their historical origin instead of having a governing body.
As for why these fell out of usage, I don't know. But we aren't also the ones crowing constantly about our superior and perfect system to anyone else.
Except that one fag up there, but that's why I called him retarded too.
What? Engineering notation is the preferred notation even for metric. It's suited to numbers in general. You can (and should) even use it without units. There's literally nothing complicated about it. If you can do decimal you can do engineering notation.
Understanding the reasons to use one over the other is the point. And there is no logical reason to ever use metric. It's entire invention is a sham and it's promoted by people who are too dim to understand the underlying problem. Which is why it solves nothing other than to add another layer of bullshit to existing metrology.
Which is bad enough, but to believe and then say out loud that metric is good for "big numbers," demonstrates that you are firmly within this category of people.
So we went from "its only used by nerds!" to "engineering notations are the superior form of all numbers."
That's how I know you have no point. You are just saying things to look and sound smarter than you are.
You provided an example showing exactly how useless your notation would be in any form except academia and text. Its seven fucking syllables. Something impossibly useless to yell across a jobsite, the thing Imperial was designed and made for, and Metric can take up its slack of not having incredibly large or small units in the cases its needed.
I might have use for a 2mm drillbit, and that is an easy thing to both say, hear, and write.
Imperial and Metric both have their value. Metric is good for very large or small numbers, so mostly math and academic. Imperial is useful for everyday scenarios and trade work, because its always focused around useful default sizes and being divisible by 2/3/4s.
The fact that they act like Imperial has no use or is inferior shows just how little actual work most of them do, or how much they pride themselves on using a tool system designed for micro and macro science for their simple baking.
Its the same with American English. Its hugely flexible to be used by a common man or idiot to accomplish so many tasks. You can bend words to mean all sorts of things, break its rules, and generally just make shit up and it'll still work quite naturally. You can learn to speak it with zero time spent studying, just embroiling into slang.
Whereas many European languages are riddled with rules and genders that you need to memorize by the thousands, and they will scoff at you if you didn't know this word you never heard before was feminine and not masculine (its an inanimate object). Sure Germans have a word for everything, by just jamming dozens of other words into something incomprehensible to say outloud.
I'll take metric for 'everyday' use seriously when they start calling 2,000 kilometers "2 megameters".
Until then they're just poseurs.
I'd bet most "Metric users" don't even know Deci/Deka exist. And those would be the most useful of their prefixes for normal use possible.
Instead they are 154cm tall, because big number make their pp feel big I guess.
That's the other thing. They never utilize half their own units like decimeters or mega meters.
Or how many of them actually know that 1 cc is also 1 ml?
I've found plenty of imperial fans that will say metric is useful under certain circumstances. I've never seen the reverse. And it's not because metric is perfect. It's because they are so snobby they can't stand the idea that "the American" system has any merit.
And the proof that both systems have merit is that two big nations use both: Canada and Mexico. Maybe not officially but every tradesman in those those countries uses imperial. Fact. And I'm sure chemists in Mexico use metric. A measuring system is a tool just as much as a hammer or a microscope. And just like different tools are for different jobs, so can different measuring systems.
But Europeans are so far up their own ass they can't admit this.
The irony being that it came from Europe, and then Europe switched. Just like the word "soccer".
I seriously doubt that simply because of the words "decimal", "decibel", and "decimate".
They don't know what that means lol. "Decimate" functionally lost its original meaning centuries ago.
Counter argument: most people are so retarded they know if the word decimate but don't use it correctly. People use decimate as an incorrect synonym for "annihilate" when it's to kill or destroy 1/10th. The irony being that it was designed to not over do something (to not over kill). "We want to punish these bad soldiers but we don't want to kill too many of them because we still need them. So let's only kill a small number of them as punishment. How about 1 in 10?". Fast-forward and people retardedly say "the evil robots completely decimated the city!".
In my country, for some reason, people use deka when buying sliced meat at a supermarket deli counter or at the butcher. "I'll have 20 deka of that smoked ham over there please". Noone uses it in pretty much any other scenario, just this. I never understood why that is and I don't even know if any other nations do that.
Also shots (as in, alcohol) are often listed in centiliters on drinks menus, and again this is the only time anyone uses that unit.
Deka is still used in weight measurements. Usually for cooking and baking. It is old fashioned and less common than it used to be, but you still see it.
Yeah, people are 154cm because writing "15dm and 4cm" is gay and retarded. And 1m 5dm and 4cm even more so.
Also I don't really see how "this system of measurement has so many subsections, it can afford to loose 90% of them for everyday life and no one will suffer any form of detriment from it and even then it's still relatively easy to remember because the conversion number is always a factor of 10" is inferior to "our units of measurement have like 5 subsections that are all wildly different numbers and our smallest unit is still so big that we need to start writing it out in fractions, because inventing a smaller subsection means the Eurofags win".
You mean like when we write 6'3" for our height instead of 76 inches? Seems to work fine over here. I mean, if you want to write it in the most nonsensical way to make it seem retarded you did fine, but I think 1.54m probably would accomplish everything.
I never said it was inferior. My entire original point was people acting like one is inferior to the point of not having value is retarded. Which is something almost all Metric users seem to believe, while almost all of us in Imperial land do just fine with using both as per needed when they are most useful.
Except this isn't true, we have those units. They just don't see common usage, because Imperial also suffers from the same issue of people sticking with their preferred nomenclature to a point where most people forgot other units. Like the "hand" which is 1/3rd of a foot or the "barleycorn" which is 1/3rd of an inch. Or the "chain" and "furlong" which come between yard and mile. The naming isn't standardized, but all forms of Imperial come from their historical origin instead of having a governing body.
As for why these fell out of usage, I don't know. But we aren't also the ones crowing constantly about our superior and perfect system to anyone else.
Except that one fag up there, but that's why I called him retarded too.
Especially since with metrics, you can state that your penis is 140 mm long!
Engineering notation works fine with either. Want metric decades with imperial units?
2.7e-10 feet.
Not a problem.
And now you are complicating a simple system to force it to work in something its not suited for.
Which is exactly what the Europeans do, to suite their own unnecessary pride and ego, when using Metric for everything just to avoid the Imperial.
What? Engineering notation is the preferred notation even for metric. It's suited to numbers in general. You can (and should) even use it without units. There's literally nothing complicated about it. If you can do decimal you can do engineering notation.
Understanding the reasons to use one over the other is the point. And there is no logical reason to ever use metric. It's entire invention is a sham and it's promoted by people who are too dim to understand the underlying problem. Which is why it solves nothing other than to add another layer of bullshit to existing metrology.
Which is bad enough, but to believe and then say out loud that metric is good for "big numbers," demonstrates that you are firmly within this category of people.
So we went from "its only used by nerds!" to "engineering notations are the superior form of all numbers."
That's how I know you have no point. You are just saying things to look and sound smarter than you are.
You provided an example showing exactly how useless your notation would be in any form except academia and text. Its seven fucking syllables. Something impossibly useless to yell across a jobsite, the thing Imperial was designed and made for, and Metric can take up its slack of not having incredibly large or small units in the cases its needed.
I might have use for a 2mm drillbit, and that is an easy thing to both say, hear, and write.