Don't be like that. TERFs are merely selfish. I can respect that, even if I recognize that they're not on our side. We share AN enemy, and that's a start.
The tranny phenomenon is a direct result of radical feminist ideology. The TERFs refuse to accept responsibility for that, and indeed only take issue with gender ideology insofar as it provides cover for men trying to infiltrate women's spaces or gives men a way to escape their role as the Eternal Oppressor of Women and the collective guilt that goes along with it.
"Enemy of my enemy" notwithstanding, the TERFs will never be a part of the solution to the tranny problem, because they don't see and can never accept the reason why it's impossible to slay that dragon without permanently eradicating the ideology underpinning it, which is their ideology as well.
You're missing the point. Radical feminists were the originators of the idea that gender is not tied to biological sex, and that there are no fundamental differences between men and women on a societal or individual level. TERFs still believe this, and must believe it in order for their grievance train to continue. This is the fundamental basis for trans ideology. Feminists cannot and will never be a part of the solution to a problem they can't even admit they caused.
Radical feminists were the originators of the idea that gender is not tied to biological sex
Yeaaaaaah but they didn't actually believe that was a two way street. They just had to say it was a two way street to pay lip service to liberalism.
They were never about equality, they were about female supremacy; and I can respect that if they're willing to own up to it now and throw the trans camp under the bus.
This is not the Victorian era. We do not have legions of anti-suffragettes on our side to make the fight with the feminists appear "fair" (by fighting them with their own).
So unless you are willing to go full patriarchy fuck yeah, which will mean fighting a real civil war, men against men to change the state in order to deprive women of rights...
Unless that, we're debating between the win we can get (against the trans) and the win you want but can't get (against the terfs).
Now, if you were here advocating for all men to go muslim or someshit because sharia is a faster path to destroying the terfs, then fine. But you're not.
So unless you are willing to go full patriarchy fuck yeah, which will mean fighting a real civil war, men against men to change the state in order to deprive women of rights...
If people go to war for it, it might happen faster and there might be a chance to recover more quickly.
However, it doesn't matter. Just the decline in birthrates will fuck feminist nations in a generation. The trans-human experiment of birth control pills and accessible abortions (the Sexual Revolution) has been a catastrophic failure. Starting in London, but closely followed by Sweden and then Europe, cultures that have deliberately restricted their women will replace cultures that have given them all the freedom they want.
There doesn't need to be a war. Immigration is enough.
You realize that the RF stands for Radical Feminist right? The kind of people who wrote the SCUM manifesto? The movement that pushed to call all sex rape and consider women should never be put in prison? The ones that were at the forefront of the Woke movement until Intersectionality pushed them down for being too white?
Yeah trannies are literally one of their own creations gone awry and they deserve to be left to rot in the stinkditch with them. If we remove this "mutual enemy" they will just turn their full, and much greater, hate and institutional power back on us. The trannies are literally the lesser of two evils in this race because they are at least a fraction of a fraction of the size and can only exist with massive protections brought on by the Left.
Don't be like that. TERFs are merely selfish. I can respect that, even if I recognize that they're not on our side. We share AN enemy, and that's a start.
The tranny phenomenon is a direct result of radical feminist ideology. The TERFs refuse to accept responsibility for that, and indeed only take issue with gender ideology insofar as it provides cover for men trying to infiltrate women's spaces or gives men a way to escape their role as the Eternal Oppressor of Women and the collective guilt that goes along with it.
"Enemy of my enemy" notwithstanding, the TERFs will never be a part of the solution to the tranny problem, because they don't see and can never accept the reason why it's impossible to slay that dragon without permanently eradicating the ideology underpinning it, which is their ideology as well.
I think you are GREATLY underestimating women's capacity to simultaneously hold mutually incompatible ideas.
I think there are plenty of TERFs who are willing to go 100% Magda Goebbels on trans people.
You're missing the point. Radical feminists were the originators of the idea that gender is not tied to biological sex, and that there are no fundamental differences between men and women on a societal or individual level. TERFs still believe this, and must believe it in order for their grievance train to continue. This is the fundamental basis for trans ideology. Feminists cannot and will never be a part of the solution to a problem they can't even admit they caused.
I said this to Imp and I'll say it to you.
Magnus Hirschfeld wasn't a woman, or a feminist. He was definitely a couple of the other things though.
Yeaaaaaah but they didn't actually believe that was a two way street. They just had to say it was a two way street to pay lip service to liberalism.
They were never about equality, they were about female supremacy; and I can respect that if they're willing to own up to it now and throw the trans camp under the bus.
Feminists are a greater threat than a 1% of insane people
The insane people are an easier target.
This is not the Victorian era. We do not have legions of anti-suffragettes on our side to make the fight with the feminists appear "fair" (by fighting them with their own).
So unless you are willing to go full patriarchy fuck yeah, which will mean fighting a real civil war, men against men to change the state in order to deprive women of rights...
Unless that, we're debating between the win we can get (against the trans) and the win you want but can't get (against the terfs).
Now, if you were here advocating for all men to go muslim or someshit because sharia is a faster path to destroying the terfs, then fine. But you're not.
If people go to war for it, it might happen faster and there might be a chance to recover more quickly.
However, it doesn't matter. Just the decline in birthrates will fuck feminist nations in a generation. The trans-human experiment of birth control pills and accessible abortions (the Sexual Revolution) has been a catastrophic failure. Starting in London, but closely followed by Sweden and then Europe, cultures that have deliberately restricted their women will replace cultures that have given them all the freedom they want.
There doesn't need to be a war. Immigration is enough.
Mmhmmm, most certainly. They are a self-solving problem.
You realize that the RF stands for Radical Feminist right? The kind of people who wrote the SCUM manifesto? The movement that pushed to call all sex rape and consider women should never be put in prison? The ones that were at the forefront of the Woke movement until Intersectionality pushed them down for being too white?
Yeah trannies are literally one of their own creations gone awry and they deserve to be left to rot in the stinkditch with them. If we remove this "mutual enemy" they will just turn their full, and much greater, hate and institutional power back on us. The trannies are literally the lesser of two evils in this race because they are at least a fraction of a fraction of the size and can only exist with massive protections brought on by the Left.