That's about where I am now. There's no question that the Nazis were responsible for more than their fair share of atrocities. But there's so much weird stuff surrounding the specifics that leads to questions about what's legit and what isn't. The fact that you're not allowed to ask these questions without being treated as pure evil just makes the narrative even more suspect.
Mix in the shocking evils of Weimar Germany that most histories conviniently leave out, and you have the perfect storm to convince people that the whole thing is one big conspiracy and scam.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that it was an actual tragedy that has been conspiratorially inflated and exaggerated for political leverage. Not a total lie, but definitely not the entire truth.
I remember in school being taught about inmates being masturbated to death by machines in the camps. The next year (they taught months of the Holocaust every single year) I asked about the masturbation machines and the teacher yelled at me and said no one ever said that.
Also, the roller coaster of death, the electric pool of water, the bear and eagle in a cage. Those were once taught as well. Then they just decided to act like they never were.
They used to say Natzis would put jews in these minecarts that would rush down a slope and throw them into the oven. Either that or spikes.
There was another one of a bear in the cage they would throw jews in. Some stories had an angry eagle added that would pluck out their eyes.
Another had them crowded together in a room slowly filling up with water that would be shocked when the water level was high enough- Batman villain style.
These are all tales they told to make those darn Natzis seem so evil and cruel. I remember the masturbation machines one told to me in class.
Now jews say they never told stories like that. It's bullshit.
Oh, but the six million of them in ovens, without one buried pile of ashes being found, that one is true. They mean it this time. For real. No kidding guys
Personally, I'm of the opinion that it was an actual tragedy that has been conspiratorially inflated and exaggerated for political leverage.
I am of similar belief. I'd even be willing to say whatever did happen was probably pretty horrific in the general sense, even if the Jews brought it entirely on themselves with their actions prior.
And it only takes living in the modern era for a few minutes to see how quickly they will turn anything into a gigantic psychodrama exaggerated to the heavens to try and guilt you into giving them power and money.
Regardless of that though, enough time has past that it should just be history and whatever happened should be left in history instead of a cudgel like they wield it as. Whatever your grandpa went through is meaningless to your current actions.
It has absolutely been exaggerated. The 6 million number was not from the camps, nor was it just jews. That number includes the deaths of civilians murdered across eastern europ, which included jews, gypsies and other groups. Murders that both soviets and germans participated in.
Every time i hear the mainstream narrative it's always 6mil jews specifically. Even if the narrator spent the rest of the video talking about everyone else. Always made me bit curious how historians determined whether someone was ukrainian or jewish. At best they'd call them ukrainian jewish and count them in among jewish deaths as if to pad the numbers in a competition.
It's all a telephone game of idiots tacking things on to make a bigger number and the details of what they included being tossed aside by two-bit sensationalist goblins for decades on repeat, until it gets so ludicrous that it actually gives the "this couldn't possibly have happened because it makes my guy look bad, but it should have because fuck joooooos" retards some valid points by sheer retarded exaggeration.
This is why all leftists must be gatekept from academia. They have no respect for language or fact, and their "little" edits to serve their purposes over time eventually erode all of history and discourse into retarded babble.
When you kill that many people, it seems odd to assume every single one was a jew when we already know the nazis killed communists, gypsies, dissenters, freedom fighters and etc.
Its more likely that they'd just classify you as a "jew" if you were one of those things, seized your property, sold it via the state (they were a socialist country - they were running out of money fast so jewish seizures was a big source of income) and sent you to the bulldozers to die in Poland.
That's about where I am now. There's no question that the Nazis were responsible for more than their fair share of atrocities. But there's so much weird stuff surrounding the specifics that leads to questions about what's legit and what isn't. The fact that you're not allowed to ask these questions without being treated as pure evil just makes the narrative even more suspect.
Mix in the shocking evils of Weimar Germany that most histories conviniently leave out, and you have the perfect storm to convince people that the whole thing is one big conspiracy and scam.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that it was an actual tragedy that has been conspiratorially inflated and exaggerated for political leverage. Not a total lie, but definitely not the entire truth.
I remember in school being taught about inmates being masturbated to death by machines in the camps. The next year (they taught months of the Holocaust every single year) I asked about the masturbation machines and the teacher yelled at me and said no one ever said that.
Also, the roller coaster of death, the electric pool of water, the bear and eagle in a cage. Those were once taught as well. Then they just decided to act like they never were.
excuse me? The roller coaster of death? The bear and eagle in a cage? Where the hell did you go to school?
They used to say Natzis would put jews in these minecarts that would rush down a slope and throw them into the oven. Either that or spikes.
There was another one of a bear in the cage they would throw jews in. Some stories had an angry eagle added that would pluck out their eyes.
Another had them crowded together in a room slowly filling up with water that would be shocked when the water level was high enough- Batman villain style.
These are all tales they told to make those darn Natzis seem so evil and cruel. I remember the masturbation machines one told to me in class.
Now jews say they never told stories like that. It's bullshit.
Oh, but the six million of them in ovens, without one buried pile of ashes being found, that one is true. They mean it this time. For real. No kidding guys
I am of similar belief. I'd even be willing to say whatever did happen was probably pretty horrific in the general sense, even if the Jews brought it entirely on themselves with their actions prior.
And it only takes living in the modern era for a few minutes to see how quickly they will turn anything into a gigantic psychodrama exaggerated to the heavens to try and guilt you into giving them power and money.
Regardless of that though, enough time has past that it should just be history and whatever happened should be left in history instead of a cudgel like they wield it as. Whatever your grandpa went through is meaningless to your current actions.
It has absolutely been exaggerated. The 6 million number was not from the camps, nor was it just jews. That number includes the deaths of civilians murdered across eastern europ, which included jews, gypsies and other groups. Murders that both soviets and germans participated in.
I have a distinct memory of being taught the death toll was 4 million Jews and 2 million others at some point in school.
I remember 11 million in total, 6 mil of which were Jews.
I remember 12 mil total.
Every time i hear the mainstream narrative it's always 6mil jews specifically. Even if the narrator spent the rest of the video talking about everyone else. Always made me bit curious how historians determined whether someone was ukrainian or jewish. At best they'd call them ukrainian jewish and count them in among jewish deaths as if to pad the numbers in a competition.
It's all a telephone game of idiots tacking things on to make a bigger number and the details of what they included being tossed aside by two-bit sensationalist goblins for decades on repeat, until it gets so ludicrous that it actually gives the "this couldn't possibly have happened because it makes my guy look bad, but it should have because fuck joooooos" retards some valid points by sheer retarded exaggeration.
This is why all leftists must be gatekept from academia. They have no respect for language or fact, and their "little" edits to serve their purposes over time eventually erode all of history and discourse into retarded babble.
When you kill that many people, it seems odd to assume every single one was a jew when we already know the nazis killed communists, gypsies, dissenters, freedom fighters and etc.
Its more likely that they'd just classify you as a "jew" if you were one of those things, seized your property, sold it via the state (they were a socialist country - they were running out of money fast so jewish seizures was a big source of income) and sent you to the bulldozers to die in Poland.