I was watching the new Battlestar Galactica (I watched the old one too! I'm so old!) and they got to a season where the entire plot was focused on having older, White terrorists doing suicide bombings.
I dropped that shit so fast... picked it back up when they got over themselves. The ending was still both absurd and terrible in so many ways. Overall: a complete waste of time. The OS was more intelligently presented.
When it first aired, I loved the BSG remake. Upon subsequent viewings I've enjoyed it less and less. It has some amazing parts to it (the space battles and music is amazing, and some of the storylines), but it gets incredibly nihilistic and depressing, with tons of needless character drama and "shocking twists!!!", lots of "are we the baddies?" critiques of humanity, and "the cylons are victims too!" relativist bullshit, with allegory to modern events that have all the subtlety as a sledgehammer to the face, just to pad out the story.
The same thing happened with the TV show Vikings. Subsequent viewings of the show has made me hate all of the characters, as they've done needlessly stupid and evil things purely for drama. It was shows like this that were stepping stones to the "morally gray" slop that we have everywhere nowadays.
I loathe that form of story telling. They authors of this poison hide under excuses like "our characters are complex", to justify their obvious intent to paint good people as bad, and evil people as good, to depress and brainwash the audience with ugliness, evil, and lies, to take away our heroes, to take away the characters we're supposed to emulate, to take away the virtues we're meant to embody, and to take away the lessons we're supposed to pass on, through our stories.
To me BSG couldn't quite nail down how to lean into the lore and spirituality they created. They'd have an episode with the scrolls seeming to be right and the god's existed and then the next episode it was all hooey
Agreed. This only happens because the creatives behind a show, or any story medium, don't properly hammer out the details of the story before hand. They "wing it", which creates all manner of problems in the telling of the story, creating contradictions in the story, lore, and characters. It's like trying to release a book before it's finished being written, or even planned out. It invites catastrophe.
On the other hand, a properly laid out and planned story, if told well, almost universally is enjoyed more than one not planned. A properly planned and executed story plants seeds in the story, mirrors and foreshadows, metaphors and allegories, lessons upon lessons, subtleties and nuance, which upon reflection of the story, or future readings, makes the story much more rich. But, most writers nowadays, at least in Hollywood, are incapable of doing that.
It also really dates the show as well. It was so heavy handed. The ending is a mess but the most egregious thing to me was Baltar's trial. The defense was basically yeah he's guilty but we all did things we regret so let's give him a pass.
The best part of the show was watching the battles and tactics and just about any of the stories about the ship itself 'as a character'.
Warping your aircraft carrier into the atmosphere of a planet to bypass a blockade and release your fighters while in free-fall, then warping back out before you hit the ground, might be one of the coolest fucking things I've ever seen.
The bait and switch has become so predictable that my household has all but given up on modern television.
I was watching the new Battlestar Galactica (I watched the old one too! I'm so old!) and they got to a season where the entire plot was focused on having older, White terrorists doing suicide bombings.
I dropped that shit so fast... picked it back up when they got over themselves. The ending was still both absurd and terrible in so many ways. Overall: a complete waste of time. The OS was more intelligently presented.
When it first aired, I loved the BSG remake. Upon subsequent viewings I've enjoyed it less and less. It has some amazing parts to it (the space battles and music is amazing, and some of the storylines), but it gets incredibly nihilistic and depressing, with tons of needless character drama and "shocking twists!!!", lots of "are we the baddies?" critiques of humanity, and "the cylons are victims too!" relativist bullshit, with allegory to modern events that have all the subtlety as a sledgehammer to the face, just to pad out the story.
The same thing happened with the TV show Vikings. Subsequent viewings of the show has made me hate all of the characters, as they've done needlessly stupid and evil things purely for drama. It was shows like this that were stepping stones to the "morally gray" slop that we have everywhere nowadays.
I loathe that form of story telling. They authors of this poison hide under excuses like "our characters are complex", to justify their obvious intent to paint good people as bad, and evil people as good, to depress and brainwash the audience with ugliness, evil, and lies, to take away our heroes, to take away the characters we're supposed to emulate, to take away the virtues we're meant to embody, and to take away the lessons we're supposed to pass on, through our stories.
To me BSG couldn't quite nail down how to lean into the lore and spirituality they created. They'd have an episode with the scrolls seeming to be right and the god's existed and then the next episode it was all hooey
Agreed. This only happens because the creatives behind a show, or any story medium, don't properly hammer out the details of the story before hand. They "wing it", which creates all manner of problems in the telling of the story, creating contradictions in the story, lore, and characters. It's like trying to release a book before it's finished being written, or even planned out. It invites catastrophe.
On the other hand, a properly laid out and planned story, if told well, almost universally is enjoyed more than one not planned. A properly planned and executed story plants seeds in the story, mirrors and foreshadows, metaphors and allegories, lessons upon lessons, subtleties and nuance, which upon reflection of the story, or future readings, makes the story much more rich. But, most writers nowadays, at least in Hollywood, are incapable of doing that.
It's always good when the actors and actresses themselves don't even know what the fuck the show was trying to communicate.
Kara finding her own body and them just being like 'OH SHE'S AN ANGEL NOW' was so retarded.
The last lines of the series I believe are between "Head Six" and "Head Baltar" in present day saying, "God hates being called God."
What the fuck does that ending mean?
It was a storyline that was about the war in Iraq at the time.
Yes, correct, also the typical PLO suicide bombing at the time too.
"See? Even White people will become organized suicide bombers!" which is contrary to all recorded history.
It also really dates the show as well. It was so heavy handed. The ending is a mess but the most egregious thing to me was Baltar's trial. The defense was basically yeah he's guilty but we all did things we regret so let's give him a pass.
The best part of the show was watching the battles and tactics and just about any of the stories about the ship itself 'as a character'.
Warping your aircraft carrier into the atmosphere of a planet to bypass a blockade and release your fighters while in free-fall, then warping back out before you hit the ground, might be one of the coolest fucking things I've ever seen.
That first episode "33" is such amazing television.