It's Canada, the country was literally founded on misappropriation of government tax grants to railway construction companies that funded Macdonald's election campaign. Macdonald was the first PM BTW. I don't think there's been any significant period in Canadian history that isn't filled with rampant corruption. We're basically the Ukraine of North America in terms of money laundering.
I can't really say I believe in full legitimacy of Russian elections, but western elections have made me hate 'democracy', unlike Russians, they'll openly suppress and manipulate votes and tell you it's for ''our demoncracy to fight the evil right wing in Europe''.
You forgot to add that when an election DOESN'T go the way they want the government just cancels it, arrests the rightful winner, bars them from ever running for office again, and then redoes the election.
Previously I posted- Liberal Party of Canada DQ'd 2/3 of members (>250k people) from voting in the leadership race to replace Trudeau as PM for unspecified reasons: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/19AduTN4U6/
The idea that even in his competition's home districts he won by a similar margin is not very believable. Freeland spent a decade in politics there, she didn't even have 200 supporters? She was a high ranking figure the whole time, being a minister of something or other and was the deputy PM for the last few years. Karina Gould was also an MP for a decade, you'd expect they'd get the hometown hero bump in their own ridings- even if they lost you'd think it would be a much smaller amount then every other riding in the country.
Before I conflate this with an actual federal election, as far as I know, only liberal party members (the ones that weren't DQ'd) were allowed to vote on this.
So it seems to me like those disqualifications were in specific districts to prevent people from voting in any way but exactly what they wanted to happen.
ie: those they knew were going to vote for Carney got to vote. And those who were going to vote for someone else got just enough DQs to make carney the easy win.
Sounds like this is more like a vote in Congress, where the whips know how many are going to vote which way and twist arms enough to get the result.
But Canada does have a big problem with elections and that is until covid-era they had real elections, with hand-counted paper in-person votes. Now they have unverifiable elections with lots of mail-in.
Canada hasn't built up the secret checks and balances of competing riggers like America has (election fraud for at least 60 years), so they're likely to just go completely off the rails.
We've had mail-in ballots for a long time. BUT! The scrutiny to get one is just the same as an in-person vote. Wide-scale mail-in fraud would be very costly both in time and money. Even then? You'd have to do it in specific ridings where it might make a difference: there's no large-scale ballots for Prime Minister or Governor, for example.
So until lately, Canada's elections have been pretty solid. This upcoming one could be like the USA 2020: rigged from the start.
Hmm mail in is not as large as I thought... from 1.5% (2019) to 4.0% (2021).
I must have read that they were prepared for 5 million ballots... but they only got 500k.
You have to send in a photocopy of your ID so it would be hard to add fake voters, but there doesn't seem to be much protection from your vote being changed - probably because historically it hasn't been enough to be a concern.
It's more akin to the Democrats rigging their 2024 primary for Biden so there could be no challengers.
And all the surrounding legal precedent that political parties have no obligation to respect the will of their party members or even feign having any democratic legitimacy.
Wasn't it decided last Democratic primary that no Florida Democratic presidential voting would be held at all and Biden would simply be acclaimed?
The Canadian Liberals disqualified two candidates (POC no less) for no reason at all (given, they had no chance at all).
They also reportedly disqualified 250k ballots from voting party members right before Carrey's coronation, who only won with 150k votes at the end.
Both are terrible, but Freeland had zero chance of holding even 10 seats: she was another Kim Campbell in waiting.
The Liberals think Carney might even save their official party status! Lolz! Let us hope they are wrong.
There were 2-3 "viable" potential nominees? But they were shut out by the rigged system before they could even apply. So no one else ever had a chance, it was Carney only from the start.
I'd love to see the last contested Liberal Party results. We'd have to go back a long way though, Justin was "anointed" too with little to zero opposition.
2006: Stephan Dion won on the 4th ballot.
He was 3rd on the first ballot with 17.8% behind Ignatieff (29.3%) and Bob Rae (20.3%) but picked up all the dropped out endorsements.
He ended up with 54.7% support.
Even Trudeau, going against no-names in 2013, only got 80% support. That was running against literal no-names, not the former Deputy with tons of name recognition. Even then he lost 5 of the ridings.
And they have the balls to call Russian elections fake lol.
Pretty much one in the same
It's Canada, the country was literally founded on misappropriation of government tax grants to railway construction companies that funded Macdonald's election campaign. Macdonald was the first PM BTW. I don't think there's been any significant period in Canadian history that isn't filled with rampant corruption. We're basically the Ukraine of North America in terms of money laundering.
I can't really say I believe in full legitimacy of Russian elections, but western elections have made me hate 'democracy', unlike Russians, they'll openly suppress and manipulate votes and tell you it's for ''our demoncracy to fight the evil right wing in Europe''.
You forgot to add that when an election DOESN'T go the way they want the government just cancels it, arrests the rightful winner, bars them from ever running for office again, and then redoes the election.
Ah, the legitimate russian elections famed across the world.
Previously I posted- Liberal Party of Canada DQ'd 2/3 of members (>250k people) from voting in the leadership race to replace Trudeau as PM for unspecified reasons: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/19AduTN4U6/
The idea that even in his competition's home districts he won by a similar margin is not very believable. Freeland spent a decade in politics there, she didn't even have 200 supporters? She was a high ranking figure the whole time, being a minister of something or other and was the deputy PM for the last few years. Karina Gould was also an MP for a decade, you'd expect they'd get the hometown hero bump in their own ridings- even if they lost you'd think it would be a much smaller amount then every other riding in the country.
Before I conflate this with an actual federal election, as far as I know, only liberal party members (the ones that weren't DQ'd) were allowed to vote on this.
So it seems to me like those disqualifications were in specific districts to prevent people from voting in any way but exactly what they wanted to happen.
ie: those they knew were going to vote for Carney got to vote. And those who were going to vote for someone else got just enough DQs to make carney the easy win.
Sounds like this is more like a vote in Congress, where the whips know how many are going to vote which way and twist arms enough to get the result.
But Canada does have a big problem with elections and that is until covid-era they had real elections, with hand-counted paper in-person votes. Now they have unverifiable elections with lots of mail-in.
Canada hasn't built up the secret checks and balances of competing riggers like America has (election fraud for at least 60 years), so they're likely to just go completely off the rails.
We've had mail-in ballots for a long time. BUT! The scrutiny to get one is just the same as an in-person vote. Wide-scale mail-in fraud would be very costly both in time and money. Even then? You'd have to do it in specific ridings where it might make a difference: there's no large-scale ballots for Prime Minister or Governor, for example.
So until lately, Canada's elections have been pretty solid. This upcoming one could be like the USA 2020: rigged from the start.
Hmm mail in is not as large as I thought... from 1.5% (2019) to 4.0% (2021).
I must have read that they were prepared for 5 million ballots... but they only got 500k.
You have to send in a photocopy of your ID so it would be hard to add fake voters, but there doesn't seem to be much protection from your vote being changed - probably because historically it hasn't been enough to be a concern.
I saw some vote totals for local riding associations in the paper this morning.
It wouldn't have been hard to rig.
We're literally talking about Carney winning local association votes with 100 ballots.
lmao that makes our fortified 2020 election look legitimateby comparison
It's more akin to the Democrats rigging their 2024 primary for Biden so there could be no challengers.
And all the surrounding legal precedent that political parties have no obligation to respect the will of their party members or even feign having any democratic legitimacy.
Wasn't it decided last Democratic primary that no Florida Democratic presidential voting would be held at all and Biden would simply be acclaimed?
The Canadian Liberals disqualified two candidates (POC no less) for no reason at all (given, they had no chance at all).
They also reportedly disqualified 250k ballots from voting party members right before Carrey's coronation, who only won with 150k votes at the end.
Freeland is a demon.
If shit's rigged against her, good.
Carney may be even more of a WEF globalist elite shill than her, he might actually be worse.
Both are terrible, but Freeland had zero chance of holding even 10 seats: she was another Kim Campbell in waiting.
The Liberals think Carney might even save their official party status! Lolz! Let us hope they are wrong.
There were 2-3 "viable" potential nominees? But they were shut out by the rigged system before they could even apply. So no one else ever had a chance, it was Carney only from the start.
I'd love to see the last contested Liberal Party results. We'd have to go back a long way though, Justin was "anointed" too with little to zero opposition.
2006: Stephan Dion won on the 4th ballot.
He was 3rd on the first ballot with 17.8% behind Ignatieff (29.3%) and Bob Rae (20.3%) but picked up all the dropped out endorsements.
He ended up with 54.7% support.
Even Trudeau, going against no-names in 2013, only got 80% support. That was running against literal no-names, not the former Deputy with tons of name recognition. Even then he lost 5 of the ridings.