The games are examples only, I’m asking in the general sense and even beyond games into movies or books or whatever - where do you draw the line?
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Eh, a gay dating sim with improved sword mechanics and AI is still a gay dating sim. It's no purity spiral to lump games like that all in together.
If GTA San Andreas came out last year would it have been called woke by some for its ghetto focus and showing the (white) cop as corrupt? If New Vegas came out last year would it have been called woke by some for that gay Confirmed Batchelor perk (among other things)? If Halo came out last year would some people have criticized it for its “woke” interpretation of religion (the covenant)?
Somewhat rhetorical questions but I’m also interested in peoples opinions so I’m posting this under your comment even though it’s not a direct response. To your point about kcd2 specifically, I think we should be capable of discerning between games with 1% gay shit and 51% gay shit and 95% gay shit, but that doesn’t necessarily mean treating those games differently
The whole point of KCD2 is to slip subversive shit passed the defenses of people who would otherwise reject it. That's why it's not loaded with blue-haired they/thems. It's much more effective propaganda.
Was that the whole point with Fallout NV? Why or why not?
Possibly. It's an old game so its political context is a distant memory. It doesn't change what KCD2 is either way.
Games weren't political back then, the point of NV was to have fun. Any sexual stuff was dealt with the same way as it had been in the older 2D games, by being vague and then fading to black without giving any details.
Which begs the question that if it's much more effective for being subtle, does the best defense to that mean treating it differently to the blatant ones rather than lumping them all together?
In that regard, sure. I don't think it deserves credit for being less pozzed than shit like Concord though.
1% gay shit is a lot different in a world where the people who want it are merely obnoxious, as opposed to a world where they've gotten everything they've wanted for fifteen years and all its done is embolden them to publicly jerk themselves raw to fantasies of killing us. Things change, motivations are revealed, and new context is created.
"If x came out today" is one of the dishonest psychological hacks created by vicious little faggots that has wormed its way into public consciousness. It only works because most people mindlessly regurgitate on whatever dumb fucking meme they've been programmed with. So what if New Vegas coming out today would be treated differently? It's a different world, with different people and more history to draw upon. What fucking cretin is so detached that he would treat it the same today?
in New Vegas you can sell the faggot as a slave to the Evil Bad Guys, who are incidentally also given a full valid ending questline and at least a chance to justify themselves (Caesar's Hegelian stuff is a bit of nonsense, but the part where some say Legion territory is genuinely safe isn't nonsense). the Good Guy alternatives are realistically shown as having problems with corruption, or in House's case, megalomania.
in KCD2 you have to save jews and be called a dumb goy to progress, you have to get cucked by a mohammedan for the only normal relationship option, and you have to very carefully not press the gay sex button to continue the main questline.
if FNV came out today it still wouldn't be as bad as this shit, so it's not only dishonest like you said, but outright false.
You're either a gay retard or you're being disingenuous. Christ, at least use better examples. "Oh ho, if the original Metroid came out today you'd all call it woke for the end reveal that Samus was a woman the whole time, herp derp!" Fuck off. The gay shit matters now because we're all well aware where it's coming from and why it's being forced in.
You fucking mongoloids would call Metroid woke
If it came out today, sure. Because that ending wouldn't have just been a fun twist like it was in the 80s. Like imagine there was one final Halo game, and at the end Master Chief finally takes off his armor and we're presented with a ftm tranny, zipper tit scars and all. 99.9% of the game could have been classic Halo, but that last few seconds would have ruined it.