The games are examples only, I’m asking in the general sense and even beyond games into movies or books or whatever - where do you draw the line?
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What do you do about “purity spiraling” and “eating ourselves” like we often see tear apart organization on the left (like with Occupy Wallstreet for example)?
That wasn't a purity spiral, they got infiltrated. The banker class sent in their agitators to force the movement into going off target.
And that's when the Machine started heavily pushing racial politics and didn't let up. They knew they had no position to argue about how the largest companies most responsible for the recession were getting bailed out with tax dollars. The only way out was to inject Marxism to divide everyone and keep them distracted
Agreed that it wasn’t “organic” by any means, but I’d still say that the method {they} used to tear things apart was what could be called “purity spiraling” in the sense that the agitators and infiltrators were basically using early critical race theory to erode support for the “old white men” who would have otherwise acted as anchors for the movement
Which goes to show being 'colorblind' makes you retarded and vulnerable to parasites who will take advantage of your accommodations.
Fuck off. It wasn't a "purity spiral". The identarian left used exactly the same method by which the Neo-Marxist faggots took over AAA gaming. I'll spell it out for you.
Lack of gatekeeping caused the Occupy movement to fail. NOT excessive gatekeeping.
That you cant tell the difference shows that you are a massive faggot.
Eh, a gay dating sim with improved sword mechanics and AI is still a gay dating sim. It's no purity spiral to lump games like that all in together.
If GTA San Andreas came out last year would it have been called woke by some for its ghetto focus and showing the (white) cop as corrupt? If New Vegas came out last year would it have been called woke by some for that gay Confirmed Batchelor perk (among other things)? If Halo came out last year would some people have criticized it for its “woke” interpretation of religion (the covenant)?
Somewhat rhetorical questions but I’m also interested in peoples opinions so I’m posting this under your comment even though it’s not a direct response. To your point about kcd2 specifically, I think we should be capable of discerning between games with 1% gay shit and 51% gay shit and 95% gay shit, but that doesn’t necessarily mean treating those games differently
The whole point of KCD2 is to slip subversive shit passed the defenses of people who would otherwise reject it. That's why it's not loaded with blue-haired they/thems. It's much more effective propaganda.
1% gay shit is a lot different in a world where the people who want it are merely obnoxious, as opposed to a world where they've gotten everything they've wanted for fifteen years and all its done is embolden them to publicly jerk themselves raw to fantasies of killing us. Things change, motivations are revealed, and new context is created.
"If x came out today" is one of the dishonest psychological hacks created by vicious little faggots that has wormed its way into public consciousness. It only works because most people mindlessly regurgitate on whatever dumb fucking meme they've been programmed with. So what if New Vegas coming out today would be treated differently? It's a different world, with different people and more history to draw upon. What fucking cretin is so detached that he would treat it the same today?
You're either a gay retard or you're being disingenuous. Christ, at least use better examples. "Oh ho, if the original Metroid came out today you'd all call it woke for the end reveal that Samus was a woman the whole time, herp derp!" Fuck off. The gay shit matters now because we're all well aware where it's coming from and why it's being forced in.
Only the impure worry about purity spirals. There is not enough gatekeeping on the right. After all the right is now ruled by someone who brags about ending segregation at Mar-A-Largo. The right is incapable of defending anything because it allows anyone in.
The only groups that can actually be groups are the one that restrict their membership.
Interesting to hear coming from a staunch atheist - where do you derive your absolutes from? Biology? Some philosophy?
The Occupy movement was always fake, all modern leftist protest movements are both fake and gay and were paid for by the US government.
This is the Jewest argument I’ve heard…this week!
Thanks for proving my point I guess
Oy vey?
Eh intolerance for the intolerant is lazy midwit opiate. For one there's other ways to eliminate things than naked intolerance, so you don't need to become intolerant if you for some reason think it's evil. For two, intolerance is neutral not evil. It's the reason you don't tolerate something that matters, not the intolerance itself.
You should be against something for the real root reason that it sucks.
And in the case of KCD2 that root reason is brain washing the useful idiots into helping ruin everything by erasing and replacing the ideals that eventually created a great society.
So yes, it still should be on the list. But being on the list doesn't mean you have to treat them all the same. When the attack is subtler so should your response if you're talking to normies. Veilguard and Concorde get open derision and insults for being blatant and ugly. KCD2 gets disappointment that they fell off and how it's bland and soulless compared to the first one, it forgot the dedication to its roots that made it great and focused too much on including all the weird outliers and lost it's luster (ahem, like an allegory for society, ahem)
Again with the lazy simplifications. Being louder doesn't push the window any further than being subtle, as long as both are still pushing for the same goals subtle can push just as far and is less likely to engage defensiveness in the undecided.
It works better, not worse. The downside to subtle is it takes more work. So if you don't need to be subtle it's more efficient to be brash and fast instead.