I don't know who even downvotes a post revealing how payment companies are permissing transactions for child sex abuse material?
This REALLY supports the idea of 'thou does protest too much' as they have been HEAVILY trying to deny service to force censorship of Japanese FICTIONAL media and culture but completely fine with allowing REAL child abuse payments through their services for Onyfans.
I hope the get investigated by the Government as we already see Trump has got his eye in with banks denying services for ideological reasons.
They don't. Beyond even corruption, you need to remember that banks have always effectively operated as utilities. They don't refuse to allow pedophiles, terrorists, convicted felons, or even currently serving felons to not have bank accounts. Yes, they shouldn't support illegal transactions, but they don't do any real monitoring to prevent that.
Which is why this corporate continuance of Obama's Operation Chokepoint is so galling.
This isn't censorship. It's worse. It's a de-banking effort that is just a continuation of the norm that Operation Chokepoint set. There are industries that certain political groups want demonetized. They close Nigel Farage's multi-million dollar accounts because he's "politically controversial", but they don't close the accounts of convicted pedophiles who are in prison.
Let's not forget that Donald Trump had to pardon the founder of Silk Road because he didn't prevent illegal transactions on his site that he refused to monitor. MasterCard and Visa are always allowed to support illegal transactions that they refuse to monitor because MasterCard and Visa have friends in the government.
Is this hyperbolic? I'm sure they processed the transactions but it's not like it was marked as "actual CSAM" and a real person looked at it and said "yeah that's fine" is it now? (obviously didn't watch video)
There's a difference between consciously allowing and it happening on your system.
There's also a difference between active policing and being a platform.
VISA and Mastercard have been demonitizing and demonizing random Japanese developers for having the ever-present "actually 9000 years old vampire" characters, even in completely non-sexual settings, citing the reasons being public morals and morality policing. Falling afoul of DEI practices. They cut off funding for political reasons, often HIDDEN political reasons that required research and effort to find. Meanwhile, OnlyFans is a KNOWN issue, they've publicly had chronic problems about it, and they not only didn't even try to shift their focus, they endorsed it!
If VISA had just been a publisher, no one here would care. They're cash in the form of a plastic card? That's exactly what they should be. But instead, VISA decided to be a publisher, to vet and to moderate content on which it can be exchanged, based on specific political values. The moment they do that, they, in the public eye at least, lose all "we're just a platform, just a cash substitute" defenses. They researched Japanese companies to make sure they were western baizuo DEI-compliant and pulled service from ones that weren't. But they actively turned a blind eye to the blatant issues on a corp 100x bigger.
Trump should just nationalize the big 4 credit card companies into an open interbank network so that the banks are running their own cards and you can just hop banks if they refuse to process payments.
thaaaat seems like a really bad idea long term. there's too much centralization of banking as it is.
Don't get me wrong, I get where you're coming from, but the potential for abuse seems a bit high, especially when you consider what happens if somebody gets in who isn't exactly on the up and up.
I was pretty much suggesting making it so the credit card system works the same way as the debit card system, where it's an open interbank network like interac in Canada, which also needs to be nationalized as they declared allegiance to the regressive left.
maybe. i just get a little queasy anytime someone suggests centralizing banking any more than it already is...hope you didn't think I was attacking you.
I am just of the opinion that the government should be the ones who own the infrastructure so that it automatically becomes a political issue when something goes wrong, as people hate having to deal with unaccountable companies due the fact lobbying the government to do something about said companies is a bitch.
I didn't get through the video either, mostly because I'm not a fan of the "faggot outrage article story hour" video format.
Based on a nypost article on the issue, https://archive.is/3rrrB, The whistleblower was part on an investigation into using only fans to launder money for child porn. Likely they had a typical onlyfans model running a show as a front, and told the buyers to subscribe to her for payment while distributing the material through other means.
The whistleblower claims they explicitly alerted Visa and Mastercard to the money laundering scheme, and that they basically ignored it. Of course, Visa and MasterCard deny that they were alerted to anything.
I don't know who even downvotes a post revealing how payment companies are permissing transactions for child sex abuse material?
This REALLY supports the idea of 'thou does protest too much' as they have been HEAVILY trying to deny service to force censorship of Japanese FICTIONAL media and culture but completely fine with allowing REAL child abuse payments through their services for Onyfans.
I hope the get investigated by the Government as we already see Trump has got his eye in with banks denying services for ideological reasons.
I would assume the same ol rule of "blame others for what you are doing" applies here, ie they are actual pedophiles.
They don't. Beyond even corruption, you need to remember that banks have always effectively operated as utilities. They don't refuse to allow pedophiles, terrorists, convicted felons, or even currently serving felons to not have bank accounts. Yes, they shouldn't support illegal transactions, but they don't do any real monitoring to prevent that.
Which is why this corporate continuance of Obama's Operation Chokepoint is so galling.
This isn't censorship. It's worse. It's a de-banking effort that is just a continuation of the norm that Operation Chokepoint set. There are industries that certain political groups want demonetized. They close Nigel Farage's multi-million dollar accounts because he's "politically controversial", but they don't close the accounts of convicted pedophiles who are in prison.
Let's not forget that Donald Trump had to pardon the founder of Silk Road because he didn't prevent illegal transactions on his site that he refused to monitor. MasterCard and Visa are always allowed to support illegal transactions that they refuse to monitor because MasterCard and Visa have friends in the government.
Might be worth investing in Amex and Discover.
Is this hyperbolic? I'm sure they processed the transactions but it's not like it was marked as "actual CSAM" and a real person looked at it and said "yeah that's fine" is it now? (obviously didn't watch video) There's a difference between consciously allowing and it happening on your system.
There's also a difference between active policing and being a platform.
VISA and Mastercard have been demonitizing and demonizing random Japanese developers for having the ever-present "actually 9000 years old vampire" characters, even in completely non-sexual settings, citing the reasons being public morals and morality policing. Falling afoul of DEI practices. They cut off funding for political reasons, often HIDDEN political reasons that required research and effort to find. Meanwhile, OnlyFans is a KNOWN issue, they've publicly had chronic problems about it, and they not only didn't even try to shift their focus, they endorsed it!
If VISA had just been a publisher, no one here would care. They're cash in the form of a plastic card? That's exactly what they should be. But instead, VISA decided to be a publisher, to vet and to moderate content on which it can be exchanged, based on specific political values. The moment they do that, they, in the public eye at least, lose all "we're just a platform, just a cash substitute" defenses. They researched Japanese companies to make sure they were western baizuo DEI-compliant and pulled service from ones that weren't. But they actively turned a blind eye to the blatant issues on a corp 100x bigger.
think you meant platform here, minor typo. happens.
yup, my bad.
no worries.
Trump should just nationalize the big 4 credit card companies into an open interbank network so that the banks are running their own cards and you can just hop banks if they refuse to process payments.
thaaaat seems like a really bad idea long term. there's too much centralization of banking as it is.
Don't get me wrong, I get where you're coming from, but the potential for abuse seems a bit high, especially when you consider what happens if somebody gets in who isn't exactly on the up and up.
I was pretty much suggesting making it so the credit card system works the same way as the debit card system, where it's an open interbank network like interac in Canada, which also needs to be nationalized as they declared allegiance to the regressive left.
maybe. i just get a little queasy anytime someone suggests centralizing banking any more than it already is...hope you didn't think I was attacking you.
I am just of the opinion that the government should be the ones who own the infrastructure so that it automatically becomes a political issue when something goes wrong, as people hate having to deal with unaccountable companies due the fact lobbying the government to do something about said companies is a bitch.
it's a balancing act to be sure.
I didn't get through the video either, mostly because I'm not a fan of the "faggot outrage article story hour" video format.
Based on a nypost article on the issue, https://archive.is/3rrrB, The whistleblower was part on an investigation into using only fans to launder money for child porn. Likely they had a typical onlyfans model running a show as a front, and told the buyers to subscribe to her for payment while distributing the material through other means.
The whistleblower claims they explicitly alerted Visa and Mastercard to the money laundering scheme, and that they basically ignored it. Of course, Visa and MasterCard deny that they were alerted to anything.
Ah ok so someone contacted a finance payment company when they should have contacted the Police or FBI. (Even though it was probably the fbi doing it)
I might call my local pizza joint and complain that my tap is running then make a video that they knew my taps were leaking and did nothing about it.