Remember this is why TikTok is getting banned in USA.
0 relation to being Chinese company or any other thing.
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It's still a Chinese propaganda vector. Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons is still better than not doing it at all.
All of our politicians are Chinese propaganda and spy vectors, they sold out more American interests in their 10 minute meetings than TikTok ever will
Only about half of them. There are plenty of politicians with different masters.
While I like the idea of Tiktok getting nuked off the face of the internet, I worry about the precedent being set and what that means for open discourse on the internet.
The US or its states can definitely control what happens on the ground. And TikTok swears up and down they store their data in the US. So I think they are subject.
If they want to become TikTok.cn and serve from China they can do wtf they want.
Pretty much, plus it unfortunately shows how restrictions in social media MAY BE required given that China doesn't suffer the same degenerate decline thanks to restrictions on TikTok at home.
Or maybe that's because they KNOW they can easily be gulag'd, might be that.
The sheer amount of bad ideas being spread via tiktok currently to both children and young women (the two most impressionable and stupid demographics in America) is so pronounced that banning it for any reason is a net good.
I'd be loath to censor anything on principle, but as its a Chinese spy program anyway with no control over it, then its not covered under that.
I'm not a fan of it either, but you don't let Tokyo Rose broadcast from New York City.
Open enemy action can't be tolerated as "libertarian principles". It's just not true. It's the intentional misapplication of the NAP and treating a collectivist aggressor as if he were an individual libertarian. All communists are a violation of the NAP, because all slaves are a violation of the NAP.
So you're saying that all Communists are a violation of the NAP and we should line them up against a wall and shoot them because they are an act of war simply for existing?
Ah it's good to see you making progress Gizzy.
YES
Not quite. Not all aggression should be met with the same force. There is such a thing as proportionality.
That's called losing.
If your enemy attacks you, then you kill him and end the threat he represents.
Remember: Communists aren't people.
Just because they're not people, it doesn't mean you hunt them to extinction. I don't hunt wolves to extinction either.
If an enemy attacks you, you repel the attack. Killing him was his choice for escalating the situation.
I don't think I've ever met one of the hardcore libertarians that would disagree with that. The faggy pretend "left libertarians" that have no understanding of economics would, but they also think that libertarianism can be chopped into pieces and they can just take the "no drug laws / no anti-degeneracy laws" and throw away the rest.
They're as libertarian as the antifa fags are actually anti-fascist - a negative value.
And we know they'd never lie about something being a Chinese spy program (or muh Russia) to ban something they simply don't like....
I mean, we knew it was a Chinese company who made it from well before it got big or mattered whatsoever. Any company based in China is a vulnerability in that regard because all bugmen are part of the hive.
Your line of reasoning only works if someone didn't pay attention whatsoever until the government started talking about it.
To me, the argument falls flat knowing they still allow Chinese phones to be sold in the US, among many other Chinese products that can be used to do exactly what they're claiming to stop with the TikTok ban.
So until we reach perfection we should do nothing?
Alright, better apologize to Elon then since we can't deport everyone so we better just stop doing anything.
I understand that argument. I'm just so wary of supporting the government banning anything because we know it's only a matter of time until they expand the definition and start banning more things.
So the question I'm asking myself is, "Do the benefits of a TikTok ban outweigh the negatives from opening the door to our government banning more websites and social media apps?"
I don't think the answer is yes because China has endless other ways to obtain the same information. It's like plugging one small hole on a sinking ship while half the boat is missing and saying welp it's better than not trying to save the boat.
For me, its a case where I wouldn't have petitioned to have them do it but I'm not going to march to make them stop it either.
But again, while China might have endless other ways to accomplish the task its still beneficial to staunch that flow as much as we can to keep them from having quite as easy access to both our children and manipulating our politics/media.
I don't see it as particularly precedent setting because websites/apps get shut down all the time by the government for far flimsier reasons. This is just the first time its a "mainstream" one instead of some easily dismissed forum for incels/terrorists/coomers/etc. That door was opened long ago and nobody really cared to stop it.
Yeah, weird how we can easily tell who didn't listen to the SCOTUS arguments, or read the briefs, etc.
I'm assuming you mean to say that because only 2m of the hashtags, placing it in 14th place out of 15, are in support of israel when they want it to be in all 15 places and not second to last is why it is being shutdown.
Because pointing to one as This, to me, seems to imply that it being on the list at all is why it is being banned.
Yeah, it’s phrased awkwardly, but all the others are pro-Palestine, so I assume the intent is “look how much more popular anti-Israel views are than pro-Israel views.”