Has Musk always been this way? Maybe I'm retarded and easily influenced and got caught up in the hope of a better future under Trump, but it seems like Musk is a totally different person than he was prior to the election.
No this is actually the same, I don't know why everyone is turning around shocked like 'you were meant to be MAGA!' kind of deal.
He's an autist with massive amount of resources and has a history of when he's slighted barring grudges. Just before the election, his grudges were solely directed at the left given how they fucked with his family with one of his son's trans'd, CONSTANTLY fucked with his company that he started moving and making a mega factory in Texas and basically constantly attacking him.
The guy fucks with the UK government unrestrained because they tried to treat him like a tool once, how is anyone shocked that when people within the right attack him he isn't going to be petty?
Elon is so petty that he banned Substack links because they dared to launch a Twitter-analogous service. For some retarded reason he also allows Mastodon and Bluesky links even though they're more significant competitors.
Mastodon and Bluesky links even though they're more significant competitors.
Hehe, competition. It's artificially paraded around as competition by the mainstream media and leftists. They're already at each others throats on there because it's a massive leftist echo chamber.
Gab is more a direct competition to Twitter than those two.
They are close to having YouTube status of being so established that it'd take a decade to even be a blip on their radar.
The 80% cuts and community notes along with paid accounts ensured that, it's not going to suddenly fall, well before we find out a bunch of pedo networks are operating out of the lefty alternatives so can destroy them that way.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Musk is a man who made himself known through Tesla. Yeah, he had a hand in Paypal, but Tesla is who Musk is. And Tesla got to where they are by abusing the everloving hell out of government grant programs, specifically "green" initiatives. He didn't build up a free market company. He's not an entrepreneur.
So when you look at that, at his actual actions, you see someone that is heavily reliant upon the government. And maybe he will do a decent job as DOGE. But his history is intrinsically linked with government grants. And that to me isn't someone that turns around and suddenly wants a smaller government. That's a man that wants a consolidated government with direct paths to achieving these handouts.
People talk about trust fund kiddies and nepo babies. Musks is a handout child. He got to where he is solely through the abuse of handouts. Frankly, when the left talks about Trump being a selfish businessman, it's pretty ridiculous. But Musk? I don't think the left are right, but those criticisms apply better to Musk than Trump. Not accurate, but better. I dunno, I just find it funny whenever I've seen people jerk off Elon. I don't think he's a bad guy or evil or anything like that, but I do think he's self-serving.
I would say to get started yes Elon was that but with Space X that kinda has becomes redundant.
Tesla hasn't been getting any grants since the Biden administration but has been making profits due to brand recognition and, well not making shit electric cars like GM, Ford or (nearly pukes) that abomination that Jaguar showed off.
Space X though makes A LOT of money thanks to how dominant it is in the space industry alone. Starlink being not just why Ukraine still has logistics but Australia uses it as their main source of Internet because the government provided service is so shit.
I can believe him in wanting to cut government spending and agencies down as, getting back to my earlier point of him holding grudges for being slighted, the Californian government fucked him around so much that he's moving operations to Texas and we all heard anecdotally the kind of red tape they have to leap through for Space X a out if rockets landing in the sea is a danger to whales..
The thing is Elon can be a good ally so long as he isn't slighted to hold a grudge and fortunately it looks like Trump's statements diffused anything that would hamper DOGE, just Twitter getting some backlash.
Tesla hasn't been getting any grants since the Biden administration
Tesla has been around since 2003. Let's be generous and suggest the first few years he didn't get any grants. So we'll be generous and say 2008. That's still 12 years of essentially being government subsidised. 12 years to build a business with massive "green" funding is a long ass time to gain viability when most businesses go under in less than 5.
This isn't to say that Musk is an idiot businessman. It still takes skill to be successful, even with handouts. But it still lessens the achievement.
And as you've pointed out, the way that Starlink has been adopted by multiple governments ultimately helps show that his pseudo-independence is still heavily funded through taxpayer dollars. His achievements should always have a big asterisk next to them, because it was not done in a free and open market like many seem to believe. His biggest boon was autonomy. That's it.
Selling a product to a government is like selling to any other buyer, and isn't the same as subsidies. (which Tesla tax breaks do count as, yes) If governments didn't buy Starlink he'd still be providing the service to private customers. NO entrepreneur would turn down government contracts, except maybe to avoid onerous regulatory paperwork or a difficult bidding process.
Maybe I'm retarded and easily influenced and got caught up in the hope
"A rich man thinks all other people are rich, and an intelligent man thinks all other people are similarly gifted. Both are always terribly shocked when they discover the truth of the world. You, my dear brother, are a pious man." - Strahd von Zarovich
Trump values loyalty, but it's dangerous to assume Elon is the same.
Loyalty implies free will, because true loyalty cannot be coerced.
Elon values obedience. Look at his robots, the ultimate obedient servants. Look at his H1Bs, who can be deported if they disobey.
a totally different person than he was prior to the election
"When I was about sixteen, I stopped backstabbing my allies in Diplomacy. I had noticed that breaking my word repeatedly was weakening it, and though it helped me win on occasion, it ended up costing me games. No one would risk an alliance with me or think twice about betraying me—after all, I'd done it to them before." - Richard Garfield
It was a temporary alliance against a shared enemy. Now that the threat of Kamala is in retreat, Elon let it slip that the alliance is over.
Put another way, Elon is the snake from the poem Trump often read at his rallies. MAGA saved Elon and his tech buddies from the bitter cold of a Kamala Winter. The fangs are now bared. Hopefully we can avoid the vicious bite.
"No freedom of reach" and "no freedom from consequences" are constructive restrictions of freedom of speech.
If the reach of your speech is restricted because of its content, and that content is mere opinion, expression, or creativity, then your freedom of speech is being inhibited.
If you face extra "consequences" following your speech because of its content, and that content is mere opinion, expression, or creativity, then your freedom of speech is being inhibited.
The reach/consequences "arguments" are coming from disgusting little scumfucks trying to curtail your rights because they don't like what you have to say, and I guess Elon is just another one of them.
They never stopped. The minute Elon put a World Economic Forum toady in as CEO people should have realized that all his free speech and "we are the media" talk was rubbish.
What I hate about social media is there is so much work to find any evidence. This random guy says this because another random guy said that because another random guy said this. It's all just a bunch of people trying to keep me in a state of agitation. Can no one present a smoking gun?
It's all just a bunch of people trying to keep me in a state of agitation.
I mean.. what exactly do you think social media is? A corporation giving you a playground for your benefit? lol.. people used at least have a sense of when they were getting fucked over..
I'm not getting fucked over, because I spent next to zero amount of time on these social platforms. Single digit minutes per day. The exception would be totally non politics, social justice, or anything related Youtube content.
That's my commentary on all of this, either I'm required to stay on a constant IV drip of agitating social media bullshit to be able to hold an intelligent position on what Elon is or is not doing here, which by the way might just actually be in line with the rest of you, or I walk away and shrug my shoulders. Because all I'm given here is someone saying "Elon is doing something." The Twitter Files are evidence from 2020 mostly, before Elon. At least with the H1B stuff, it was all out in the open.
Has Musk always been this way? Maybe I'm retarded and easily influenced and got caught up in the hope of a better future under Trump, but it seems like Musk is a totally different person than he was prior to the election.
No this is actually the same, I don't know why everyone is turning around shocked like 'you were meant to be MAGA!' kind of deal.
He's an autist with massive amount of resources and has a history of when he's slighted barring grudges. Just before the election, his grudges were solely directed at the left given how they fucked with his family with one of his son's trans'd, CONSTANTLY fucked with his company that he started moving and making a mega factory in Texas and basically constantly attacking him.
The guy fucks with the UK government unrestrained because they tried to treat him like a tool once, how is anyone shocked that when people within the right attack him he isn't going to be petty?
Elon is so petty that he banned Substack links because they dared to launch a Twitter-analogous service. For some retarded reason he also allows Mastodon and Bluesky links even though they're more significant competitors.
Hehe, competition. It's artificially paraded around as competition by the mainstream media and leftists. They're already at each others throats on there because it's a massive leftist echo chamber.
Gab is more a direct competition to Twitter than those two.
Most likely you're right. It's all moot anyway because no company on earth can realistically challenge Twitter's network effect status.
They are close to having YouTube status of being so established that it'd take a decade to even be a blip on their radar.
The 80% cuts and community notes along with paid accounts ensured that, it's not going to suddenly fall, well before we find out a bunch of pedo networks are operating out of the lefty alternatives so can destroy them that way.
"No.. I do all my socializing on a different CIA contracted platform.. because my politics are important to me."
lol.. pagentry of faggots..
Mastodon and Bluesky are not serious competitors.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Musk is a man who made himself known through Tesla. Yeah, he had a hand in Paypal, but Tesla is who Musk is. And Tesla got to where they are by abusing the everloving hell out of government grant programs, specifically "green" initiatives. He didn't build up a free market company. He's not an entrepreneur.
So when you look at that, at his actual actions, you see someone that is heavily reliant upon the government. And maybe he will do a decent job as DOGE. But his history is intrinsically linked with government grants. And that to me isn't someone that turns around and suddenly wants a smaller government. That's a man that wants a consolidated government with direct paths to achieving these handouts.
People talk about trust fund kiddies and nepo babies. Musks is a handout child. He got to where he is solely through the abuse of handouts. Frankly, when the left talks about Trump being a selfish businessman, it's pretty ridiculous. But Musk? I don't think the left are right, but those criticisms apply better to Musk than Trump. Not accurate, but better. I dunno, I just find it funny whenever I've seen people jerk off Elon. I don't think he's a bad guy or evil or anything like that, but I do think he's self-serving.
I would say to get started yes Elon was that but with Space X that kinda has becomes redundant.
Tesla hasn't been getting any grants since the Biden administration but has been making profits due to brand recognition and, well not making shit electric cars like GM, Ford or (nearly pukes) that abomination that Jaguar showed off.
Space X though makes A LOT of money thanks to how dominant it is in the space industry alone. Starlink being not just why Ukraine still has logistics but Australia uses it as their main source of Internet because the government provided service is so shit.
I can believe him in wanting to cut government spending and agencies down as, getting back to my earlier point of him holding grudges for being slighted, the Californian government fucked him around so much that he's moving operations to Texas and we all heard anecdotally the kind of red tape they have to leap through for Space X a out if rockets landing in the sea is a danger to whales..
The thing is Elon can be a good ally so long as he isn't slighted to hold a grudge and fortunately it looks like Trump's statements diffused anything that would hamper DOGE, just Twitter getting some backlash.
Starlink is not used as the main internet infrastructure provider in Australia. That's flat wrong.
Tesla has been around since 2003. Let's be generous and suggest the first few years he didn't get any grants. So we'll be generous and say 2008. That's still 12 years of essentially being government subsidised. 12 years to build a business with massive "green" funding is a long ass time to gain viability when most businesses go under in less than 5.
This isn't to say that Musk is an idiot businessman. It still takes skill to be successful, even with handouts. But it still lessens the achievement.
And as you've pointed out, the way that Starlink has been adopted by multiple governments ultimately helps show that his pseudo-independence is still heavily funded through taxpayer dollars. His achievements should always have a big asterisk next to them, because it was not done in a free and open market like many seem to believe. His biggest boon was autonomy. That's it.
Selling a product to a government is like selling to any other buyer, and isn't the same as subsidies. (which Tesla tax breaks do count as, yes) If governments didn't buy Starlink he'd still be providing the service to private customers. NO entrepreneur would turn down government contracts, except maybe to avoid onerous regulatory paperwork or a difficult bidding process.
"A rich man thinks all other people are rich, and an intelligent man thinks all other people are similarly gifted. Both are always terribly shocked when they discover the truth of the world. You, my dear brother, are a pious man." - Strahd von Zarovich
Trump values loyalty, but it's dangerous to assume Elon is the same.
Loyalty implies free will, because true loyalty cannot be coerced.
Elon values obedience. Look at his robots, the ultimate obedient servants. Look at his H1Bs, who can be deported if they disobey.
"When I was about sixteen, I stopped backstabbing my allies in Diplomacy. I had noticed that breaking my word repeatedly was weakening it, and though it helped me win on occasion, it ended up costing me games. No one would risk an alliance with me or think twice about betraying me—after all, I'd done it to them before." - Richard Garfield
It was a temporary alliance against a shared enemy. Now that the threat of Kamala is in retreat, Elon let it slip that the alliance is over.
Put another way, Elon is the snake from the poem Trump often read at his rallies. MAGA saved Elon and his tech buddies from the bitter cold of a Kamala Winter. The fangs are now bared. Hopefully we can avoid the vicious bite.
"No freedom of reach" and "no freedom from consequences" are constructive restrictions of freedom of speech.
If the reach of your speech is restricted because of its content, and that content is mere opinion, expression, or creativity, then your freedom of speech is being inhibited.
If you face extra "consequences" following your speech because of its content, and that content is mere opinion, expression, or creativity, then your freedom of speech is being inhibited.
The reach/consequences "arguments" are coming from disgusting little scumfucks trying to curtail your rights because they don't like what you have to say, and I guess Elon is just another one of them.
Until there is evidence otherwise (not "two more weeks!" horseshit), assume similar behavior is indicative of similar loyalties.
They never stopped. The minute Elon put a World Economic Forum toady in as CEO people should have realized that all his free speech and "we are the media" talk was rubbish.
A lot of guys who just barely held it together after Trump won are having serious breakdowns now.
What I hate about social media is there is so much work to find any evidence. This random guy says this because another random guy said that because another random guy said this. It's all just a bunch of people trying to keep me in a state of agitation. Can no one present a smoking gun?
The twitter files.
I mean.. what exactly do you think social media is? A corporation giving you a playground for your benefit? lol.. people used at least have a sense of when they were getting fucked over..
I'm not getting fucked over, because I spent next to zero amount of time on these social platforms. Single digit minutes per day. The exception would be totally non politics, social justice, or anything related Youtube content.
That's my commentary on all of this, either I'm required to stay on a constant IV drip of agitating social media bullshit to be able to hold an intelligent position on what Elon is or is not doing here, which by the way might just actually be in line with the rest of you, or I walk away and shrug my shoulders. Because all I'm given here is someone saying "Elon is doing something." The Twitter Files are evidence from 2020 mostly, before Elon. At least with the H1B stuff, it was all out in the open.
This is old news, though.