Even Razorfist thinks this h1-b stinks of psy ops.
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This doesn't make sense. If Elon and Vivek shitting the bed and showing their true pajeet-loving faces was a "psyop," that means they are themselves part of the psyop, which means it would be correct to distrust them whether they are intentional actors or not. If the psyop is somehow aimed at Trump, then it has failed because no one is criticizing Trump.
If there is a psyop going on, its blowing up a dumb twitter spat into a politics defining major blowup that is "the end of MAGA."
I wouldn't doubt some powers in the back (like the Left, remember those guys are still around?) are happy to magnify this and keep the pot stirring to make it more and more volatile for some purpose.
It’s this. Elon, and Vivek are fully guilty of being retards, riling everyone up with this stupid ass talk. Trump is now guilty of not immediately making a very public statement of how he (should) have US workers’ backs, and is not for what they are saying.
The “psy op” portion of it is how literally the entirety of the left (the media, the tech company based social sites, the politicians, and all the terminally online retards on Reddit - mods and users) have hardcore seized upon this, and are clearly using, and amplifying this as much as humanly possible, trying to use it as a wedge to weaken / tear down the alliances made on the right.
Seriously, it’s incredible how hard the left are running with this. It’s very obvious that they hope to use it as a weapon.
“Leftists pounce” is what you faggots are going with? Really?
This is a fundamental schism within this nascent right wing coalition, no different than gays vs. Muslims on the left. That’s one of the downsides of assembling a “big tent”: you risk watering down your purpose to create a temporarily successful consensus. But those cracks will inevitably boil over, and the bigger the divergence, the bigger the pop.
In this case, a major influential wing of MAGA somehow still supports replacement immigration, and the vast majority of Trump voters are putting those “allies” on notice. It’s not a minor disagreement. These are first order principles. This fight needs to happen so that people can determine whether Trump will do what he said - put Americans first - or if it’s time to move on.
Trump’s followers didn’t hesitate to call him out on the vaxx, and they will do the same on immigration. Of course leftists are going to pounce on this rift - they weren’t killed or deported when they lost the election. Of course the civnats who support legal replacement immigration are going to say this fight shouldn’t happen - because they don’t want to be recognized for the traitors that they are.
The real problem in all of this is that white conservatives are still being forced to use proxy issues to represent their true interests. If you oppose replacement immigration, because you want your culture and people and nation to continue to exist, then you need to advocate for those things explicitly. If you use a stand-in issue like “illegal immigration”, then you are at the mercy of any “leader” who supports legal immigration. If you’re not specific about your goals, you can be easily undermined and led astray. White peoples need to become very specific in their desire to maintain their cultures and nations so that bad actors cannot twist that energy into self-destruction.
And no, insisting on basic coherence in a movement is not self-destruction. If “MAGA” is just MIGA, then there’s no point in continuing the farce.
Well that's because most people cannot palate or stomach being a racist, a sexist, or anything of the sort, but those are fundamental to actually addressing the issues we have and sort out our issues.
Attempting to force normies to do so is how elections will be lost, support will be decimated, and the Right will continue to lose further ground. We are far too gone down the hole to just rip a bandaid off and be properly represented by somebody good for us, it has to be done in steps to succeed because voting still exists and we cannot escape that. Harris ran one of the worst campaigns in history and still managed to (legitimately) get like 40% of the country on her side.
And its important to note that at no point was this issue ever on the actual table yet. This is Elon, Vivek, and the original appointment who aren't in charge of immigration in the slightest having a terrible opinion on it, no different than RFKs horrible fucking opinions on topics on topics he isn't appointed too (yet nobody said MAGA was over for his nonsense).
While the guy actually in charge of immigration has been pretty staunch on cracking down on fucking all of it legal or not. So unless Trump just pulled his name out of a hat, that's the only important take he has on it. A generic "I use it sometimes, it worked out great" statement done over the phone to a random news outlet (completely out of character for him to begin with) just means he isn't for zero immigration, and nobody should expect that level of extreme position from a mainstream politician yet. Vance himself has already responded in complete opposition to the "sports team" comments, as well. Hold his ear to the issue, but so far his actual actions have in fact been towards reducing them to begin with despite everyone acting like he is in favor of flooding Indians in.
But somehow that last point is completely lost in this. All the normal grifter heads are present and treating it like he is already in office and the draft of legislation is being passed, and when people started to point out he hasn't even commented on it this singular interview coincidentally just shows up without a Tweet or anything Trump normally does when responding to everything else.
So yes, it does seem like a proper schism that we should be discussing is being blown up to something bigger than it is by actors who have bad intentions. Likely because Trump was gaining steam and the Right was starting to win harder, and what better way for the Left to gain the upperhand than to get people saying this:
Which benefits them more than it does any of us, including those who are furious over this.
Because that's all that will happen here. We either work with a guy who has shown willingness to make progress on the issue, or we throw our toys out like children and end it all to give the Left back its ground and end up with the Indian flood anyway.
It's a mixed bag. As someone else said, the focus and pushing attention is a psyop. The problems are real, but how it's being spun is indeed suspicious. This is Orange Man Bad, TDS shit coming from the right. Again, that's not even to say the problems are not genuine, but this is being used by nefarious actors.
It's also worth noting that, although I hate Elon's take, I don't think he ever mentioned Indians, and people are inferring that. Same for Vivek, actually, I think, although that one is a bit more reasonable since he's said he wants more Indians in the past.
So, as is often the case, I'm a bit of a fence straddler here. This shit fucking stinks, and I really don't like the stance a bunch of these people (Elon, Vivek, Trump, etc.) have taken, but it is also true it's being used to drive a wedge, and some things are even taken out of context.
Now, to be completely clear: America First, America for Americans. I don't want anyone coming over here to do jobs Americans are capable of.
You don't really have to mention Indians when they make up ~75% of the H1Bs. Chinese come in second at only ~12%. So when you're talking about H1Bs, Indians are implied by virtue of numbers.
Fair enough.
Point is, "Pajeet invasion" is en vogue, and people were jumping to it. But, yes, H-1Bs are largely Indian, so there's no getting away from that.
Slightly off topic, but what sort of invasion of the West isn't en vogue? Can't we just be left alone, and put our own people first?
The only way to be left alone is to remove the ability of the other to interact with you. The last hundred years has made that perfectly clear.
You guys could try launching every nuke you got at all these supposed "allies". They'll leave you alone then.
... well, because they're dead, thats why. Heehee, I said a funny.
There is no reality in which the enemies of Trump do not seize upon every opportunity to amplify conflict within his political base. The media were already inventing these stories for the last ten years. Now that the conflict is very real, why would leftists be silent?
But this does not mean that the conflict doesn’t exist or shouldn’t be allowed to exist. The media benefits from it and finally have something true to report, but that’s not half as bad as the discovery that major conservative leaders are, once again, stabbing their constituents in the back. Are we supposed to stay quiet in order to own the lefties? Sure, let’s own them by accepting a different flavor of great replacement.
Better idea: look at what happened to the left when they allowed the globalists to overrun and derail everything. Is that what we want for the right?
Answer this question: why does the American middle class need to disappear so that Elon Musk can get to Mars ten years sooner?
Past a certain point, everything is potentially a psyop and calling everything a psyop is itself the psyop. I don't remember much of this 'Hold the line! Don't split the base! It's a psyop!' shit when the UK Conservative party imploded completely under their own impetus. It resulted in an unopposed Labour party, on the surface, but I haven't seen anyone make the serious argument that the UK right wing should have stuck by the Conservatives anyway.
Fine, we haven't seen what approach Trump's admin will actually take yet - but that's no reason not to make as much noise about it as possible. This is a core, live issue. Americans should WANT as many Republican representatives as possible quaking in their boots over the idea that they're being perceived as too neoliberal, and you should want them feeling that way fast, along with Trump too.
No, and not what I was saying.
People just need to be careful, both in what they're saying, and who they're listening to. There are plenty of bad actors who are acting like they're on Our Side, but their intent is to disrupt.
Maybe start reading the comments both here, on Twitter, and on the Donald if you think no one is blaming Trump.
This is an obvious psy-op because the king of the internet autists is acting like an autist on line, and therefore MAGA is dead, and don't you just regret voting for Zion Don?
Edit - My bad. The comments in your own fucking thread.