I think I said it before, gen z men are the most conservative young voters since the silent generation
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Yeah, they have to be. They are minorities in their own countries with crazy female counterparts and said countries going to shit.
They grew up in the worst of the "White Men Bad" period, and the video games (from western studios) all suck now. Yeah, they're sick of it.
The modern Democratic party is a party by and for the HR department, and their candidate was the personification of that sort of scold. They suck all the fun out of everything.
Also if you're 18-24 you were either in high school or college during WuFlu, and the Dems were largely who were responsible for sucking the joy out of the most formative experiences of your young adult life. If they did that to me I'd be pissed at them too.
I disagree. I think people hoping Gen Z are conservative are going to be sorely disappointed.
Trump is not a conservative candidate. He's somewhere between a classic liberal and a fiscal conservative / average-ass boomer. This tidal wave of support is because people are absolutely sick of the Democrats. Like u/lgbtqwtfbbq said, the Dems are the party of wokescolds. They represent a bureaucratic dystopia where even laughing at funny memes is forbidden. They're unfun authoritarian party now.
That is why Trump' has so much support and why it's coming from a much broader group then the Rep's are used to. He's got the people nostalgic for when America was good. He's got the men who just want to be men without a federal HR department looking over their shoulders. He's got the people who think the left are the antichrist. He's got the people who are just sick of crime. He's got the people who just want to be taxed less.
These groups were not historically always under the same tent. I really really want this broad base of core-American-values voters to stick together. But if they go into 2028+ thinking Trump's mandate means that they have all that support for a Evangelical platform or anything like that, they're going to get demolished. And if we really do manage to put a big enough dent in the cultural damage done by the woke era, there's a strong chance individuals' priorities are going to shift and they're going to end up on different sides again.
tl;dr: Gen Z might be small-government conservatives at best. Which is fine with me. I just hope we don't end up in a purity spiral like the left and I worry about cohesion post-Trump.
That would be seriously retarded. The phony family value Evangelical playbook of decades past is dead and gone, most visibly because a guy on his third marriage that many people believed shagged a porn star is the most beloved politician in America. I'm a conservative Christian and I'm fine with that. Not that I'm even sure that Trump slept with Stormy Daniels, but I'd rather someone's perfidy is known and repented rather than hidden in the B-list celebrity privileges of megachurch preachers.
More importantly, Trump's politics are pragmatic, and I'm starting to wonder how and why ideologues ever gained prominence in the party, let alone retained control. Inflation is up? Drill baby drill. Hurricane victims in need of assistance? Call up Elon and ask him for help. Companies are outsourcing? Club them over the head with tariffs. Iraq was going to be a difficult slog? Dumb idea, don't do it. People like tanks? Put them in the inaugural parade. Abortion is a divisive topic? Kick it to the states. Muslims upset about Gaza? End the war fast. People feel disconnected from politicians? Rally with them every single day, buy them Chick-fil-a, serve them McDonalds, listen to their stories and address their needs.
Just take care of your people. How on earth did we not demand this of our politicians earlier??
I really do hope the pragmatic politics become standard going forward but I never put it past them to drop the ball. I don't have a good sense for if Trump's impact is enough to be a permanent, generational shift in the GOP or if they'll go back to McCain/Romney picks as soon as they can.
No way we go back to the likes of Romney. That's actually impossible.
Again, I hope you're right. But if you had to pick someone right now to follow up Trump, who would it be? So far Vance is decent but I don't see anyone who can drive voter turnout the way Trump did.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see politics return to position vs. position debates instead of cults of personality, but I'm not that much of an optimist.
Vance is good. I think he's a little slick sometimes but I trust his basic idea for the country so far. He may be the heir apparent. There was also another impressive legislator on Trump's short list, his name escapes me at the moment.
I'm not blustering when I say another Romney is impossible. The online conservative network IS the conservative movement now, and they are never going back. Once the imp is summoned he cannot be made to cease.
Nobody can drive turnout like Trump, but they shouldn't need to. The Democrat field is utterly barren because their toxic ideology drives out all reasonable prospects by the time they get to the national stage. Shapiro is the best they have, and he covered up a murder.
One of the causes that the left started to take up in the late 00s that sadly was jettisoned was the idea of letting kids play and do errands unsupervised. I forget what they called it, but there was a whole movement that was a reaction to the "helicopter parenting" that had taken hold. But that idea of giving kids space to explore and create would have been much more appealing to men than what they're doing now.
Now the right seems to have taken up that mantle, probably because the parties at this point have effectively split along gender lines. I'm not sure the left is capable of reversing that, but if they are it'd probably require a James Carville type to be given unilateral authority to throw all the fags and hags out of positions of authority in the party.
I think it was called "free-range kids"
They are absolutely not. They are probably going to be about as conservative as Gen X is now.
That being said, please remember that you're just thinking of Social issues.
The Silent Generation literally put full blown Democratic Socialists, Socialists, and Communists into power everywhere they went.
The left: Men are evil! Men are everything wrong with this country! We hate men!
Also the left: Why aren’t men voting for us?
22 point change in males coupled with a 15 point change in females over 6 years.
I realize and agree with the focus, but it's fairly expected I think. The 15 point change shocks me. That's not THAT much of a difference in magnitude
In fact in some ways it might even be MORE of a change if you think of it in terms of extremes.
I have to imagine there's thresholds of what you might call ideological inertia. And crossing then is hard, crossing BACK can be even harder.
Law of averages essentially combines with evaporative cooling of group beliefs
Dayum if I'm reading this right, Gen Z women are moving rightward as well??
At about half the pace of men but trending right more