I've said it before, and I'll say it again; all polls are probably bullshit. Even if they support my side. All this is saying is Trump either has more online support (likely true), or supporters who run more successful bots.
Polls are just propaganda nowadays, even more than they were in the past.
Also, especially in the political sense, no one is going to answer objectively anyway. Most Trump supporters were going to say Trump won regardless, and most Harris voters were going to say Harris won regardless.
Also to prime people for when they attempt the steal again.
"Oh but of course she won by a landslide. Didn't you see all of our carefully fabricating polling results we made sure to broadcast during the months running up to the election?"
Realistically what good would this do? Russians had guns and ammo in 1917 and it didn't help. Everyone knows the 2020 election was stolen and all we got was the Jan. 6 boomerpalooza.
The goal isn't always to win the war, but at the very least have a shot at protecting your family and your home.
If you have to weather out a long dystopia, it's better to have some tools and resources. And it's better to weather it out than to lay down and surrender entirely.
The betting odds are a much better indicator of the national mood than any "opinion poll." Right now, the spin is on full steam ahead trying to give Kamala a boost, and speculators are overreacting and moving their money around. It will settle back down in Trump's favor in another few days after people have had enough time to digest and recognize that just because this wasn't another Biden debate, that doesn't mean he lost.
Why would we trust betting odds? Stock prices can be manipulated, commodity prices can be manipulated, polls can be manipulated. Everything can be manipulated by people with obscene amounts of money.
Maybe at one point "betting odds" were a good indicator, but as soon as people start noticing that they're a good indicator, the same people who manipulate everything else to create their false reality will manipulate those too.
People seem to be forgetting something: if the odds are actually even, you bet on Kamala as a hedge:
Trump wins: All your other investments go up, you win if you bet or not.
Kamala wins: US economy tanks, any gambling winnings work in opposition to your other losses.
So she should always have a bit of an artificial boost in the betting odds.
No. Right now the media is working overtime trying to spin the debate as a Kamala victory, and the Dems and normies are lapping it up. There's a bunch of blackpilling on the pro-Trump side because people who spend too much time on fucking Twitter had convinced themselves that Trump would massacre her and are disappointed that that didn't happen. The betting odds are reflecting that.
It will take a few days for the media spin to falter and for people on our side to calm down and take a more sober analysis, which I believe is that Trump actually did pretty well. The betting odds will reflect that as well. Spread-betting is just as reactive as the actual stock market. Prone to momentary shocks, but on a longer term much more reflective of the real state of affairs.
The debate is meaningless as most people aren't going to watch it. How the media and online-media covers it is what matters.
A local radio station had a short description of the debate, it was Kamala says if Trump is elected Putin gets Kiev and Trump was fact-checked several times during the debate.
I imagine that CNN, MSNBC etc are going to be much worse then that.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; all polls are probably bullshit. Even if they support my side. All this is saying is Trump either has more online support (likely true), or supporters who run more successful bots.
Polls are just propaganda nowadays, even more than they were in the past.
Also, especially in the political sense, no one is going to answer objectively anyway. Most Trump supporters were going to say Trump won regardless, and most Harris voters were going to say Harris won regardless.
Private surveys and polls might serve a purpose, but public ones are purely to manufacture consent.
Also to prime people for when they attempt the steal again.
"Oh but of course she won by a landslide. Didn't you see all of our carefully fabricating polling results we made sure to broadcast during the months running up to the election?"
Polls are bullshit.
So are elections. Democracy is fake and gay, and we aren't going to solve this nation's problems by playing the same rigged game over again.
It's a lesson the right should have learned four years ago.
There's only one future ahead of us and it doesn't involve a gangster leftist establishment giving up power willingly.
Buy ammo.
Realistically what good would this do? Russians had guns and ammo in 1917 and it didn't help. Everyone knows the 2020 election was stolen and all we got was the Jan. 6 boomerpalooza.
More good than not being armed, at the very least.
The goal isn't always to win the war, but at the very least have a shot at protecting your family and your home.
If you have to weather out a long dystopia, it's better to have some tools and resources. And it's better to weather it out than to lay down and surrender entirely.
still more reliable than some shadowy betting odds
The betting odds are a much better indicator of the national mood than any "opinion poll." Right now, the spin is on full steam ahead trying to give Kamala a boost, and speculators are overreacting and moving their money around. It will settle back down in Trump's favor in another few days after people have had enough time to digest and recognize that just because this wasn't another Biden debate, that doesn't mean he lost.
100%
Why would we trust betting odds? Stock prices can be manipulated, commodity prices can be manipulated, polls can be manipulated. Everything can be manipulated by people with obscene amounts of money.
Maybe at one point "betting odds" were a good indicator, but as soon as people start noticing that they're a good indicator, the same people who manipulate everything else to create their false reality will manipulate those too.
People seem to be forgetting something: if the odds are actually even, you bet on Kamala as a hedge:
Trump wins: All your other investments go up, you win if you bet or not.
Kamala wins: US economy tanks, any gambling winnings work in opposition to your other losses.
So she should always have a bit of an artificial boost in the betting odds.
did you just contradict yourself?
No. Right now the media is working overtime trying to spin the debate as a Kamala victory, and the Dems and normies are lapping it up. There's a bunch of blackpilling on the pro-Trump side because people who spend too much time on fucking Twitter had convinced themselves that Trump would massacre her and are disappointed that that didn't happen. The betting odds are reflecting that.
It will take a few days for the media spin to falter and for people on our side to calm down and take a more sober analysis, which I believe is that Trump actually did pretty well. The betting odds will reflect that as well. Spread-betting is just as reactive as the actual stock market. Prone to momentary shocks, but on a longer term much more reflective of the real state of affairs.
ah ok.
The debate is meaningless as most people aren't going to watch it. How the media and online-media covers it is what matters.
A local radio station had a short description of the debate, it was Kamala says if Trump is elected Putin gets Kiev and Trump was fact-checked several times during the debate.
I imagine that CNN, MSNBC etc are going to be much worse then that.
msnbc sure. Surprisingly cnn was fucking fair in their last debate. Look how well that turned out for the dems
Who won tonight's Debate?