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its kinda weird how people keep comparing the UK police to the nazis. Nazis were not traitors to their country and would never protect foreign criminals in their country (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 9 months ago by ger111 9 months ago by ger111 +127 / -12
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– Gizortnik -26 points 9 months ago +10 / -36

The National Socialists were fighting Capitalism. They allied with the Soviets, and spent most of their time inn Germany converting Communists and Socialists to their side. The only reason Hitler went to war with the Soviet Union was because it was Russia, which was a geo-political threat. Even under National Socialist doctrine, Judeo-Bolshevism was the result of Judeo-Capitalism. The Soviet Union only existed because it was an extension of money from New York and London Capitalists.

The cops are quite similar to the Nazis because they are both Race Communists.

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– Happygo 30 points 9 months ago +33 / -3

Bruh you're reaching so hard. Buzzword buzzword buzzword. Russia was not in existence anymore. It was the USSR, a fundamentally different regime.

And why would the nazis be against them? Oh idk, maybe atheist bolsheviks had just slaughtered the Tsar and his family, and started wholesale extermination of the Russian people via the soviet state with their stated goal of EXPORTING AND REPEATING the same thing worldwide.

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– AntonioOfVenice -6 points 9 months ago +1 / -7

Russia was not in existence anymore. It was the USSR, a fundamentally different regime.

Regime type doesn't matter, as any realist IR scholar will tell you. Germany was anti-Russia in 1914 when Russian was tsarist, it was anti-Russia in 1941 when it was communist, and it's anti-Russia now when it's Putinist.

maybe atheist bolsheviks had just slaughtered the Tsar and his family, and started wholesale extermination of the Russian people via the soviet state

Just so I understand your position: you're arguing that Hitler was upset that the communists killed the tsar and his family... who had brought Russia into war against Germany, and that the authors of General Plan Ost were upset about 'the wholesale extermination of the Russian people' that they were planning themselves?

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– Happygo 2 points 9 months ago +2 / -0

No. Communism is the enemy of all nations, because they stated goals are worldwide overthrow of nations. That's the point. Germans were afraid of communists, especially since Antifa and Marxists were active and trying to control Germany. Read hitler.

You can even hate a foriegn people and yet still understand how communism could spill over from their country and destroy your own country. Communists literally advocate a worldwide revolution and they seek to export Marxism internationally. Read Lenin and Marx.

I don't have to love Mexico, i might even hate their regime, but if they were overthrown by atheist radical Marxists who began vocally planning and funding revolutions in my country I would do well to take heed and prepare to fight.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 9 months ago +1 / -0

Communism is the enemy of all nations, because they stated goals are worldwide overthrow of nations.

What's the 'overthrow of nations'?

Germans were afraid of communists

Correct, 'Germans' were afraid of communists, like most Europeans.

Communists literally advocate a worldwide revolution and they seek to export Marxism internationally. Read Lenin and Marx

Which works? Also, have you heard of 'socialism in one country'?

how communism could spill over from their country and destroy your own country

And look at what Hitler did, he brought communism right into 1/4 of Germany.

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– Gizortnik -17 points 9 months ago +3 / -20

Russia still existed, that's why there was a Russian Nationalist movement in the 90's. The Russians were ruled by predominantly ethnic Rus Communists, and in the Soviet Union, Russia was the most influential state.

The National Socialists never cared about the Czar. His death, and the death of Russians was never a major issue to either the National Socialists, nor the Social Democratic Party of Germany, nor the Kaiser or German Military during WW1.

The first thing the Germans cared about was the Realpolitik issue of an industrial Russia bowling over Europe until it reached the English channel. This has always been a major concern.

The secondary concern was Bolshevik revolution in Germany exported from the Soviet Union. However, negotiations with Stalin proved that so long as Stalin was in charge, that was never going to happen. It was true because Stalin understood his place as unifying and solidifying the Communist revolution in the Soviet Union first, as Lenin had dictated. This is why he had Trotsky killed, the USSR couldn't afford another war after the rebuff of the Red Army from the Battle of The Vistula. This is why the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact was signed. Germany had been funding the USSR for years under Hitler, and it was apparent to Stalin that Hitler was a good ally, that could be trusted, and was not interested in starting a war with Russia (he was wrong). Hitler, from his position, felt that Socialist Autarkey in Germany could only be accomplished with oil from Romania and the caucuses, and Germany's economic recovery under the Hunger Chancellor was being undone by their own policies. Germany needed the oil to be self-sufficient and the Soviets were standing in the way. Beyond that, once Stalin lost power, there was a concern that the Capitalist west may further push the Soviets to invade.

Hitler didn't want a Bolshevik revolution in Germany, but that's why he welcomed them into the fold. He recruited Communists and Socialists. This is why so few Socialists and Communists in Germany were actually executed. They were even sent to prisons that would later become death camps, but instead were where he basically tried to brainwash them into National Socialist ideology. His problem was not with Bolsheviks by themselves, but because he believed that the Bolsheviks were Useful Idiots to Capitalists.

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– PraiseBeToScience 13 points 9 months ago +15 / -2

"Ignore literally every single word of Hitler's speeches and Mein Kampf and what every single National Socialist ever said on the matter."

I literally think you're a new alt of GayTexasPede/PandasForTrump/MarxHatedJews.

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– Gizortnik -10 points 9 months ago +3 / -13

My position is taken explicitly from Mien Kampf, idiot.

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– DT990P 11 points 9 months ago +11 / -0

Who were these New York and London capitalists eh?

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– AgilePickle1123 11 points 9 months ago +11 / -0

You say this like you somehow don’t understand that Nazi Germany was engaging in free-market capitalism

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– deleted 5 points 9 months ago +6 / -1

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