Bruh you're reaching so hard. Buzzword buzzword buzzword. Russia was not in existence anymore. It was the USSR, a fundamentally different regime.
And why would the nazis be against them? Oh idk, maybe atheist bolsheviks had just slaughtered the Tsar and his family, and started wholesale extermination of the Russian people via the soviet state with their stated goal of EXPORTING AND REPEATING the same thing worldwide.
Russia was not in existence anymore. It was the USSR, a fundamentally different regime.
Regime type doesn't matter, as any realist IR scholar will tell you. Germany was anti-Russia in 1914 when Russian was tsarist, it was anti-Russia in 1941 when it was communist, and it's anti-Russia now when it's Putinist.
maybe atheist bolsheviks had just slaughtered the Tsar and his family, and started wholesale extermination of the Russian people via the soviet state
Just so I understand your position: you're arguing that Hitler was upset that the communists killed the tsar and his family... who had brought Russia into war against Germany, and that the authors of General Plan Ost were upset about 'the wholesale extermination of the Russian people' that they were planning themselves?
No. Communism is the enemy of all nations, because they stated goals are worldwide overthrow of nations. That's the point. Germans were afraid of communists, especially since Antifa and Marxists were active and trying to control Germany. Read hitler.
You can even hate a foriegn people and yet still understand how communism could spill over from their country and destroy your own country. Communists literally advocate a worldwide revolution and they seek to export Marxism internationally. Read Lenin and Marx.
I don't have to love Mexico, i might even hate their regime, but if they were overthrown by atheist radical Marxists who began vocally planning and funding revolutions in my country I would do well to take heed and prepare to fight.
Russia still existed, that's why there was a Russian Nationalist movement in the 90's. The Russians were ruled by predominantly ethnic Rus Communists, and in the Soviet Union, Russia was the most influential state.
The National Socialists never cared about the Czar. His death, and the death of Russians was never a major issue to either the National Socialists, nor the Social Democratic Party of Germany, nor the Kaiser or German Military during WW1.
The first thing the Germans cared about was the Realpolitik issue of an industrial Russia bowling over Europe until it reached the English channel. This has always been a major concern.
The secondary concern was Bolshevik revolution in Germany exported from the Soviet Union. However, negotiations with Stalin proved that so long as Stalin was in charge, that was never going to happen. It was true because Stalin understood his place as unifying and solidifying the Communist revolution in the Soviet Union first, as Lenin had dictated. This is why he had Trotsky killed, the USSR couldn't afford another war after the rebuff of the Red Army from the Battle of The Vistula. This is why the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact was signed. Germany had been funding the USSR for years under Hitler, and it was apparent to Stalin that Hitler was a good ally, that could be trusted, and was not interested in starting a war with Russia (he was wrong). Hitler, from his position, felt that Socialist Autarkey in Germany could only be accomplished with oil from Romania and the caucuses, and Germany's economic recovery under the Hunger Chancellor was being undone by their own policies. Germany needed the oil to be self-sufficient and the Soviets were standing in the way. Beyond that, once Stalin lost power, there was a concern that the Capitalist west may further push the Soviets to invade.
Hitler didn't want a Bolshevik revolution in Germany, but that's why he welcomed them into the fold. He recruited Communists and Socialists. This is why so few Socialists and Communists in Germany were actually executed. They were even sent to prisons that would later become death camps, but instead were where he basically tried to brainwash them into National Socialist ideology. His problem was not with Bolsheviks by themselves, but because he believed that the Bolsheviks were Useful Idiots to Capitalists.
Bruh you're reaching so hard. Buzzword buzzword buzzword. Russia was not in existence anymore. It was the USSR, a fundamentally different regime.
And why would the nazis be against them? Oh idk, maybe atheist bolsheviks had just slaughtered the Tsar and his family, and started wholesale extermination of the Russian people via the soviet state with their stated goal of EXPORTING AND REPEATING the same thing worldwide.
Regime type doesn't matter, as any realist IR scholar will tell you. Germany was anti-Russia in 1914 when Russian was tsarist, it was anti-Russia in 1941 when it was communist, and it's anti-Russia now when it's Putinist.
Just so I understand your position: you're arguing that Hitler was upset that the communists killed the tsar and his family... who had brought Russia into war against Germany, and that the authors of General Plan Ost were upset about 'the wholesale extermination of the Russian people' that they were planning themselves?
No. Communism is the enemy of all nations, because they stated goals are worldwide overthrow of nations. That's the point. Germans were afraid of communists, especially since Antifa and Marxists were active and trying to control Germany. Read hitler.
You can even hate a foriegn people and yet still understand how communism could spill over from their country and destroy your own country. Communists literally advocate a worldwide revolution and they seek to export Marxism internationally. Read Lenin and Marx.
I don't have to love Mexico, i might even hate their regime, but if they were overthrown by atheist radical Marxists who began vocally planning and funding revolutions in my country I would do well to take heed and prepare to fight.
What's the 'overthrow of nations'?
Correct, 'Germans' were afraid of communists, like most Europeans.
Which works? Also, have you heard of 'socialism in one country'?
And look at what Hitler did, he brought communism right into 1/4 of Germany.
Russia still existed, that's why there was a Russian Nationalist movement in the 90's. The Russians were ruled by predominantly ethnic Rus Communists, and in the Soviet Union, Russia was the most influential state.
The National Socialists never cared about the Czar. His death, and the death of Russians was never a major issue to either the National Socialists, nor the Social Democratic Party of Germany, nor the Kaiser or German Military during WW1.
The first thing the Germans cared about was the Realpolitik issue of an industrial Russia bowling over Europe until it reached the English channel. This has always been a major concern.
The secondary concern was Bolshevik revolution in Germany exported from the Soviet Union. However, negotiations with Stalin proved that so long as Stalin was in charge, that was never going to happen. It was true because Stalin understood his place as unifying and solidifying the Communist revolution in the Soviet Union first, as Lenin had dictated. This is why he had Trotsky killed, the USSR couldn't afford another war after the rebuff of the Red Army from the Battle of The Vistula. This is why the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact was signed. Germany had been funding the USSR for years under Hitler, and it was apparent to Stalin that Hitler was a good ally, that could be trusted, and was not interested in starting a war with Russia (he was wrong). Hitler, from his position, felt that Socialist Autarkey in Germany could only be accomplished with oil from Romania and the caucuses, and Germany's economic recovery under the Hunger Chancellor was being undone by their own policies. Germany needed the oil to be self-sufficient and the Soviets were standing in the way. Beyond that, once Stalin lost power, there was a concern that the Capitalist west may further push the Soviets to invade.
Hitler didn't want a Bolshevik revolution in Germany, but that's why he welcomed them into the fold. He recruited Communists and Socialists. This is why so few Socialists and Communists in Germany were actually executed. They were even sent to prisons that would later become death camps, but instead were where he basically tried to brainwash them into National Socialist ideology. His problem was not with Bolsheviks by themselves, but because he believed that the Bolsheviks were Useful Idiots to Capitalists.