Tommy's loyalties do not lay with the English people
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Jews do not have a phenotype. Jews fall into several, and they are not genetically unique due to their integration with domestic populations, particularly European Jews aka: White Jews. Jewish Orthodox marriage requirements we're not always well kept, and even if they were, it's a bronze age religion that didn't understand genetics. When you think only one person in a marriage carries the genes, you're wrong. All of this is well established. Hell, different Jewish sub-ethnic groups integrated more or less depending on the group.
You know what a Jew is when they leave the faith?
Not a Jew.
If they call themselves a Jew, then tell them they're a fake Jew.
Glad that you, the non-Jew, are now the arbiter of who is and isn't Jewish when they themselves, both as a group and a religion, openly and regularly continue to accept that they are.
Guess every negro who didn't vote for Biden truly wasn't black either.
Biden's remarks are what you're arguing for. Self-Identification of something you don't pass as, is not a legitimate identification. A tranny isn't a woman in the same way an atheist 'jew' isn't jewish. You have to rely on objective markers, and the objective marker for a religion is the religious practices.
Judaism is a religion. Every aspect of their ethnicity, is based upon the religion, even sex selection. Failure to abide by the religion is a forfeiture of the ethnicity because the entirety of the ethnicity falls within the religion.
The Zionist assertion, and it is a Progressive Nationalist assertion, that there is a jewish race which requires "self-governance" of said race, is complete bullshit. There is no international jewish racial diaspora. There can only be, at most, a Jewish "Ummah", and even then, it still requires religion to be a pinnacle part. And within that framework, there is no jewish Ummah. It is one of the reasons the jewish right have repeatedly sought to restrict the "Right of Return" against American and European jews, particularly if they are irreligious or have not had their family convert. The religion of the jews is the foundational organizing principle of all aspect of jewish society. When you separate out the jewish religion from the jew, he is no longer a jew because he is not organizing along jewish lines.
He could be semetic... but this is why anti-semitism being used as another way of saying "jew hatred" is false. Syrians are semites. Muslim Syrians are semites, yet we don't use this term for anti-Syrian bigotry. It is because the Zionists insisted upon linking judaism into a race, which it never belonged in.
These fake (read: Leftist) jews are trying to use judiaism and jewishness as a shield for an ideological cause; namely Zionism.
Not only are they saying: "As a white person..." while not considering themselves to be white, they are saying "as a jew..." when they are explicitly not jews, and should not be treated as one.
No its what you are doing. An outsider to the group deciding based on his own beliefs and standards what counts as someone being part of it.
If the practicing Jewish majority don't have issue with the self-ID, and the ID-ers don't, and they have the conditions they consider acceptable to consider themselves such (in this case, the circumstances of their birth, not faith), then our opinions are meaningless. They are part of the group, and splitting hairs on it here doesn't accomplish anything because they themselves don't make the distinction.
The reasons as to why that is the case is meaningless unless there is notable change from within the group to change it. If the practicing religious Jews want that to be the case, I'll support them entirely as they seem to be much more on the level than those who are not, but until they do so our "disagreement" on it is worthless.
You are advocating for self-identification as the standard. That is the Rachel Dolezal position.
They politically jewish; in the exact same way that Italians are politically black. Which is to say, no matter how the Progressive rationalization may try, it isn't fucking true.
If you want to just end this conversation as "agree too disagree", that's fine. I would like to refer to them as "heresies"
A Jew who abandons Judaism is still halachically (in Jewish law) a Jew. Just a bad one.
That doesn't make sense. One can not be within Jewish law, while explicitly rejecting jewish law for being judaism.
In fact, to looks like Leftists are trying to re-define jewishness in order to make sure their apostasy isn't used against them, in exactly the "right of return" I've previously mentioned:
This looks like Leftist subversion of Judaism to me.
One is not within it in the sense of adhering to it, but one is within it in the sense of being bound by it.
The Law of Return is a different issue. It encompasses people who are not (and were never) halachically Jewish, generally because Jewish descent is matrilineal or because they converted to Reform Judaism, which does not recognize halacha. And yes, Reform is leftist subversion.
Then you prove my point. They're not jews.
A Unitarian which rejects the divinity of Christ, isn't Christian.
A Jew living outside off Jewish Law, isn't a Jew. That's why they can't return