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Tommy's loyalties do not lay with the English people (media.scored.co)
posted 10 months ago by WitchHunterSiegfried 10 months ago by WitchHunterSiegfried +72 / -20
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– Adamrises 1 point 10 months ago +1 / -0

Biden's remarks are what you're arguing for.

No its what you are doing. An outsider to the group deciding based on his own beliefs and standards what counts as someone being part of it.

If the practicing Jewish majority don't have issue with the self-ID, and the ID-ers don't, and they have the conditions they consider acceptable to consider themselves such (in this case, the circumstances of their birth, not faith), then our opinions are meaningless. They are part of the group, and splitting hairs on it here doesn't accomplish anything because they themselves don't make the distinction.

The reasons as to why that is the case is meaningless unless there is notable change from within the group to change it. If the practicing religious Jews want that to be the case, I'll support them entirely as they seem to be much more on the level than those who are not, but until they do so our "disagreement" on it is worthless.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 10 months ago +1 / -0

You are advocating for self-identification as the standard. That is the Rachel Dolezal position.

They politically jewish; in the exact same way that Italians are politically black. Which is to say, no matter how the Progressive rationalization may try, it isn't fucking true.

I'll support them entirely as they seem to be much more on the level than those who are not, but until they do so our "disagreement" on it is worthless.

If you want to just end this conversation as "agree too disagree", that's fine. I would like to refer to them as "heresies"

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– Adamrises 1 point 10 months ago +1 / -0

Considering how most of these conversations go, agree to disagree is probably the best we can hope for. So let's go with that.

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