Tommy's loyalties do not lay with the English people
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Glad that you, the non-Jew, are now the arbiter of who is and isn't Jewish when they themselves, both as a group and a religion, openly and regularly continue to accept that they are.
Guess every negro who didn't vote for Biden truly wasn't black either.
Biden's remarks are what you're arguing for. Self-Identification of something you don't pass as, is not a legitimate identification. A tranny isn't a woman in the same way an atheist 'jew' isn't jewish. You have to rely on objective markers, and the objective marker for a religion is the religious practices.
Judaism is a religion. Every aspect of their ethnicity, is based upon the religion, even sex selection. Failure to abide by the religion is a forfeiture of the ethnicity because the entirety of the ethnicity falls within the religion.
The Zionist assertion, and it is a Progressive Nationalist assertion, that there is a jewish race which requires "self-governance" of said race, is complete bullshit. There is no international jewish racial diaspora. There can only be, at most, a Jewish "Ummah", and even then, it still requires religion to be a pinnacle part. And within that framework, there is no jewish Ummah. It is one of the reasons the jewish right have repeatedly sought to restrict the "Right of Return" against American and European jews, particularly if they are irreligious or have not had their family convert. The religion of the jews is the foundational organizing principle of all aspect of jewish society. When you separate out the jewish religion from the jew, he is no longer a jew because he is not organizing along jewish lines.
He could be semetic... but this is why anti-semitism being used as another way of saying "jew hatred" is false. Syrians are semites. Muslim Syrians are semites, yet we don't use this term for anti-Syrian bigotry. It is because the Zionists insisted upon linking judaism into a race, which it never belonged in.
These fake (read: Leftist) jews are trying to use judiaism and jewishness as a shield for an ideological cause; namely Zionism.
Not only are they saying: "As a white person..." while not considering themselves to be white, they are saying "as a jew..." when they are explicitly not jews, and should not be treated as one.
No its what you are doing. An outsider to the group deciding based on his own beliefs and standards what counts as someone being part of it.
If the practicing Jewish majority don't have issue with the self-ID, and the ID-ers don't, and they have the conditions they consider acceptable to consider themselves such (in this case, the circumstances of their birth, not faith), then our opinions are meaningless. They are part of the group, and splitting hairs on it here doesn't accomplish anything because they themselves don't make the distinction.
The reasons as to why that is the case is meaningless unless there is notable change from within the group to change it. If the practicing religious Jews want that to be the case, I'll support them entirely as they seem to be much more on the level than those who are not, but until they do so our "disagreement" on it is worthless.
You are advocating for self-identification as the standard. That is the Rachel Dolezal position.
They politically jewish; in the exact same way that Italians are politically black. Which is to say, no matter how the Progressive rationalization may try, it isn't fucking true.
If you want to just end this conversation as "agree too disagree", that's fine. I would like to refer to them as "heresies"
Considering how most of these conversations go, agree to disagree is probably the best we can hope for. So let's go with that.