What about those communist work hours in China? I realize the life expectancy has increased now that they've installed the suicide nets, but I'd still like to see a side-by-side comparison: life expectancy of working people in China vs the West.
I'm aware of the American left's conception of European-style welfare states as socialistic, and to be fair we also throw that accusation around on the right: it's just that we don't think it's a good thing. The "not real communism" thing is a meme of it's own at this point.
As for the "schism" on the left, it's not as cut-and-dry as neolibs vs anticapitalists. Both of those groups support many of the same ideas for different reasons, but their core goal is the same: to destroy Western civilization and the concept of nationalism and nations tied to a sense of place and a common set of cultural values based on shared ancestry and language.
The globalist elite wants that destroyed because it's good for their bottom line, and because it would put an end to the basis for most of the popular opposition to their programme. The commies just hate the West. But ultimately both groups seek to use the apparatus of government to destroy the nation state and nations in general, and each group is convinced that they will be the ones in charge after that happens.
As I said in another comment in this thread, their motivation is hatred of the West, and their goal is to see it destroyed. It doesn't need to be more complex than that. Either they're convinced that any alternative must be better, or they're just so spiteful that they want everyone else to be as miserable as they are. That, and they all seem to think they'll be the ones in charge after the revolution.
It's completely impossible to pin an internet leftist down on something like this, they'll just use their most obnoxious tactics until you give up trying to argue with them.
What about those communist work hours in China? I realize the life expectancy has increased now that they've installed the suicide nets, but I'd still like to see a side-by-side comparison: life expectancy of working people in China vs the West.
“But but but I had to work a 50 hour week during a major crunch time and my fellow democrat bosses said it was capitalisms fault!”
"I can't believe I was fired for not being productive enough in my one meeting per day and 7 hours split between the nap room and the wine bar."
I'm aware of the American left's conception of European-style welfare states as socialistic, and to be fair we also throw that accusation around on the right: it's just that we don't think it's a good thing. The "not real communism" thing is a meme of it's own at this point.
As for the "schism" on the left, it's not as cut-and-dry as neolibs vs anticapitalists. Both of those groups support many of the same ideas for different reasons, but their core goal is the same: to destroy Western civilization and the concept of nationalism and nations tied to a sense of place and a common set of cultural values based on shared ancestry and language.
The globalist elite wants that destroyed because it's good for their bottom line, and because it would put an end to the basis for most of the popular opposition to their programme. The commies just hate the West. But ultimately both groups seek to use the apparatus of government to destroy the nation state and nations in general, and each group is convinced that they will be the ones in charge after that happens.
It might be giving the rank-and-file too much to credit them with 'goals' - except being the most obedient parroting serf there is?
As I said in another comment in this thread, their motivation is hatred of the West, and their goal is to see it destroyed. It doesn't need to be more complex than that. Either they're convinced that any alternative must be better, or they're just so spiteful that they want everyone else to be as miserable as they are. That, and they all seem to think they'll be the ones in charge after the revolution.
It is a good thing for them that no real communist counties exist to look at.
It's completely impossible to pin an internet leftist down on something like this, they'll just use their most obnoxious tactics until you give up trying to argue with them.
I believe it's called the 9-9-6. 9 AM to 9 PM, 6 days a week. Sounds lovely!