Maybe Alex Jones should have pointed his ire at Boeing instead of grieving parents through a bullhorn in the town were their little ones were gunned down.
Just for the record Boeing are the bad guys with this information, but only the bigger bad guys.
I just think doing it through a loudspeaker at the location were a mass murder of children took place and broadcasting it to the world is a little much for anyone.
That huge chuck of change bad? Nah, that's indicative of something else, something properly corrupt within the system and needs to be addressed.
Boeing is reflective of that proper corruption within the system and that should be what's getting addressed. But not by Alex, he made a bad call and his reputation is floundering because of it (Well, apart from with the whackos who think 9/11 was the Intergalactic Light Federation working with the Antarctic Nazis to stop the spread of the shadow demons).
This is no different from all those people calling for the media to be overhauled because now, and only now, they think that they've not been doing their jobs properly and Trump was on a plane 69 times and he clearly did X with a 13 year old girl and that interview is from 4/8 years ago.
Jones did wrong that day, the media is corrupt and we're not getting anywhere near the real stories as to why any of this is happening.
Maybe Alex Jones should have pointed his ire at Boeing instead of grieving parents through a bullhorn in the town were their little ones were gunned down.
Interesting. Any other cases where people must conform to the approved message? And who exactly sets what is and isn't the approved message? Do you also support the prosecution of people who were at the capitol on Jan 6? How about the Canadian Freedom Convoy? Or is that Different™? Hell, let's move away from the politics, what about shit like OJ Simpson. Do you think he did it? Careful, the state decided he was innocent, and speaking out against that might hurt some feelings.
Jones is a bit of a nut, but remember, you're justifying and defending a $2.7 TRILLION fine for hurting some feelings. Dick move? Sure, regardless of where you stand on it. Deserving of a completely insane fine to try and make an example out of him for his anti-state views? Is that really the hill you want to perch your flag on? The one that's pro-state approved messages?
Interesting. Any other cases where people must conform to the approved message? And who exactly sets what is and isn't the approved message?
I just feel that aggravating grieving parents aren't just means to get clicks to your videos. In other parts of the world he wouldn't have been breathing shortly after doing so. Nothing wrong with pointing out inconsistencies and making the world a better place. But the "By Any Means Necessary" motto is not he smart way of going about it.
Do you also support the...t might hurt some feelings.
Two many specifics which only dilute the case here which is Boeing got an easy fine when compared to someone who speaks out of turn at a tragic event. Jones messed up and should be punished but if we're doing any comparisons it should be why is his punishment so very different from that of Boeing?
Is that really the hill you want to perch your flag on? The one that's pro-state approved messages?
All I do is put myself in the place of the parents of both the victims of Sandy Hook and Boeing's corruption and I want justice at both ends. The Boeing case is clearly not synchronising with the Alec Jones case when it comes to punitive damage and that's what should be pointed out and made better - however that goes.
In many parts of the world you wouldn't be breathing after criticism of the prevailing government, which is something you've definitely done, so what's your point exactly?
We (Alex Jones and I) live in fucking America. We get to enjoy the right to be free to say and do shit that authoritarian shitbags would kill us over.
I also have the freedom to call Alec Jones a scumbag. I also have the right to say he's been far too over-punished for his words and that, in comparison to Boeing, it's not a fair system.
It was certainly not impartial. Alec is being asked to mop up a decent amount of national debt for making a dick move at a time when tensions were high all around.
They are doing a dirty on him and, while I don't like him, we need to address how the courts can be so wrong on their judgements.
"oh but people respond weirdly to grief, not how you'd expect"
Ok, fine, but you must admit it looks suss, he absolutely looks like he's not grieving. And if you're going to hold AJ guilty for it, every single Australian in the 80s with the Dingo-baby case is guilty of the same thing.
It does look suspicious but why not suspect that one guy being the kind of asshole who is enjoying the publicity and attention and is sociopathicly indifferent to how he's getting it. It seems like a shorter step.
There's certainly a lot of precedent for parents going, "I'm so sad he's gone. Anyway, here's my GoFundMe."
The memory holing has been as absolute as can be on this one. The only videos still up at around the time are Piers Morgan, The Amazing Atheist and Steve Shives but I saw Alec, at Sandy Hook, with his bullhorn and riling those who were grieving and coming to terms with the massacre by Adam Lanza.
It was a bad call, these things unfortunately happen. The court siding with Boeing is far worse.
But two bad calls are still bad calls regardless of how they are compared.
AJ didn't point any ire at anyone. He just had a guest on making a suggestion - no crazier than any of the other satanic conspiracy theories they often bring up - which was eventually retracted.
Even if he had, nobody would expect such an unprecedented fine for that. That's like saying "well if Trump didn't want to get impeached I guess he shouldn't have made that phone call."
I don't know why Trump is being brought into a situation were it's about Alec Jones being at Sandy Hook and acting inappropriately for views.
He made a bad call, like the Westboro church when they show up to soldier's funerals to say that "God hates fags". It was inappropriate and wrong.
Should he have had to shutter his enterprise because of it? Not at all in my opinion but a hefty dose of punitive damage for breaking the social contract should be levied to stop others taking such risks without receipts.
Boeing have clearly bypassed any sort of decency to get away with the murder of over 340 people here and that's a bigger no-no but still a no-no.
Maybe Alex Jones should have pointed his ire at Boeing instead of grieving parents through a bullhorn in the town were their little ones were gunned down.
Just for the record Boeing are the bad guys with this information, but only the bigger bad guys.
AJ dindu nuffin, unless you think people should be prosecuted for calling 9/11 an inside job
I'm all for people saying whatever they want.
I just think doing it through a loudspeaker at the location were a mass murder of children took place and broadcasting it to the world is a little much for anyone.
That huge chuck of change bad? Nah, that's indicative of something else, something properly corrupt within the system and needs to be addressed.
Boeing is reflective of that proper corruption within the system and that should be what's getting addressed. But not by Alex, he made a bad call and his reputation is floundering because of it (Well, apart from with the whackos who think 9/11 was the Intergalactic Light Federation working with the Antarctic Nazis to stop the spread of the shadow demons).
This is no different from all those people calling for the media to be overhauled because now, and only now, they think that they've not been doing their jobs properly and Trump was on a plane 69 times and he clearly did X with a 13 year old girl and that interview is from 4/8 years ago.
Jones did wrong that day, the media is corrupt and we're not getting anywhere near the real stories as to why any of this is happening.
All the world’s a stage, and there are more things in Heaven and Earth, Moriarty, than are dreamt of in your philo-sophia
A true and apt take on the subject Graph :)
Interesting. Any other cases where people must conform to the approved message? And who exactly sets what is and isn't the approved message? Do you also support the prosecution of people who were at the capitol on Jan 6? How about the Canadian Freedom Convoy? Or is that Different™? Hell, let's move away from the politics, what about shit like OJ Simpson. Do you think he did it? Careful, the state decided he was innocent, and speaking out against that might hurt some feelings.
Jones is a bit of a nut, but remember, you're justifying and defending a $2.7 TRILLION fine for hurting some feelings. Dick move? Sure, regardless of where you stand on it. Deserving of a completely insane fine to try and make an example out of him for his anti-state views? Is that really the hill you want to perch your flag on? The one that's pro-state approved messages?
I just feel that aggravating grieving parents aren't just means to get clicks to your videos. In other parts of the world he wouldn't have been breathing shortly after doing so. Nothing wrong with pointing out inconsistencies and making the world a better place. But the "By Any Means Necessary" motto is not he smart way of going about it.
Two many specifics which only dilute the case here which is Boeing got an easy fine when compared to someone who speaks out of turn at a tragic event. Jones messed up and should be punished but if we're doing any comparisons it should be why is his punishment so very different from that of Boeing?
All I do is put myself in the place of the parents of both the victims of Sandy Hook and Boeing's corruption and I want justice at both ends. The Boeing case is clearly not synchronising with the Alec Jones case when it comes to punitive damage and that's what should be pointed out and made better - however that goes.
In many parts of the world you wouldn't be breathing after criticism of the prevailing government, which is something you've definitely done, so what's your point exactly?
We (Alex Jones and I) live in fucking America. We get to enjoy the right to be free to say and do shit that authoritarian shitbags would kill us over.
You are perfectly right.
I also have the freedom to call Alec Jones a scumbag. I also have the right to say he's been far too over-punished for his words and that, in comparison to Boeing, it's not a fair system.
Do I have a typing stutter or something?
2.75 trillion worth? You can't say that was an impartial ruling
It was certainly not impartial. Alec is being asked to mop up a decent amount of national debt for making a dick move at a time when tensions were high all around.
They are doing a dirty on him and, while I don't like him, we need to address how the courts can be so wrong on their judgements.
https://rumble.com/v17nr1a-sandy-hook-robbie-parker-getting-into-character.html
Yeah looks legit to me.
"oh but people respond weirdly to grief, not how you'd expect"
Ok, fine, but you must admit it looks suss, he absolutely looks like he's not grieving. And if you're going to hold AJ guilty for it, every single Australian in the 80s with the Dingo-baby case is guilty of the same thing.
It does look suspicious but why not suspect that one guy being the kind of asshole who is enjoying the publicity and attention and is sociopathicly indifferent to how he's getting it. It seems like a shorter step.
There's certainly a lot of precedent for parents going, "I'm so sad he's gone. Anyway, here's my GoFundMe."
The memory holing has been as absolute as can be on this one. The only videos still up at around the time are Piers Morgan, The Amazing Atheist and Steve Shives but I saw Alec, at Sandy Hook, with his bullhorn and riling those who were grieving and coming to terms with the massacre by Adam Lanza.
It was a bad call, these things unfortunately happen. The court siding with Boeing is far worse.
But two bad calls are still bad calls regardless of how they are compared.
AJ didn't point any ire at anyone. He just had a guest on making a suggestion - no crazier than any of the other satanic conspiracy theories they often bring up - which was eventually retracted.
Even if he had, nobody would expect such an unprecedented fine for that. That's like saying "well if Trump didn't want to get impeached I guess he shouldn't have made that phone call."
I don't know why Trump is being brought into a situation were it's about Alec Jones being at Sandy Hook and acting inappropriately for views.
He made a bad call, like the Westboro church when they show up to soldier's funerals to say that "God hates fags". It was inappropriate and wrong.
Should he have had to shutter his enterprise because of it? Not at all in my opinion but a hefty dose of punitive damage for breaking the social contract should be levied to stop others taking such risks without receipts.
Boeing have clearly bypassed any sort of decency to get away with the murder of over 340 people here and that's a bigger no-no but still a no-no.