I was thinking about getting it but I seem to remember hearing that it got censored in some way. What exactly did they change? What all is wrong with it?
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Almost half of the ground troops in the armies are "of color." It's inescapable. If you can see vehicles' pilots, one black to each white. It's like they trusted the ratio of blacks to whites on American television commercials. It killed the game for me.
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Funny, but we know this stuff is completely intentional as a method of social conditioning. (and for ESG monies)
Most of the in game censorship was just a few outfits being changed and a few lines being altered. I think Nell's was the worst with a longer skirt and sleeves added. While not great its probably also not world ending if your barometer for "ruined" is higher.
The marketing however was a complete clusterfuck, with them outright delaying it just because Ukraine happened and trying to gut any mention of war or combat from any marketing blurb.
But I've heard the gameplay itself is purely upgraded. The AI can no longer as blatantly cheat, so FoW maps aren't literally unfair, and many of the "need a guide to figure out" moments were made more direct.
IMO this is enough to put a game firmly in the territory of don't play or at least don't pay. Too much ground has already been ceded.
I don't disagree, but relatively its quite minor compared to what we normally discuss if we are being honest.
Like, Nell's is one of two I could find information on. And the other was just a dress color swap. And I couldn't even find the lines themselves to compare other than stuff like "Kanbei talks like an Imperial Japanese instead of a Samurai." Which doesn't set off any "woke" bells to me.
So again, if that's enough for you there it is. It was enough for me after the Ukraine thing.
So you're saying they're a bunch of spineless cowards only caring about The Current Thing™ despite there being ongoing conflicts around the world that not only have nothing to do with Ukraine or other wars making the news, but also preceding both.
Yeah it was pretty pathetic all around, and ironically is probably why the game failed. It got delayed so long that everyone who might have cared forgot about it. I surely did.
Which is interesting because even on the GBA version, even 20 years ago, the US got a longer skirt and covered up arms for Nell. Of course, some people still want to keep giving big N the benefit of the doubt...
It depends on what you're giving Nintendo the benefit of the doubt on. Nintendo has always had a policy of censorship to play it safe with the North American market. Even in the SNES era, Squaresoft covered up scantily-clad sprites and renamed Holy to Pearl for the US release. This isn't to say the current censorship isn't driven by leftist infiltrators, but it's not out of the ordinary for them either.
Yeah, I don't have any problem with a motivation of "we want to avoid controversy and just sell shit."
I do have a problem with, "we have to cover her up because we're objectifying her to the male gaze!"
NoA used to do the former. Now they are more likely to do the latter.
Motives matter.
Especially because with the latter, most of the people decrying "objectification" in games are big supporters of Twitch thots and music videos being borderline porn. It's literally just pure spite for the audience disguised as ideology.
These are the same thing though.
Not exactly. I grant you that the “controversy” Nintendo was avoiding may have come from the same place, but that doesn’t mean Nintendo bought into it at the time. There’s a definite difference between “whatever, it’s a different culture, I don’t really get why they care but let’s just make a few changes that’ll make them happy so we can sell this” and “I actually believe in this cause!”
Also a huge difference between "let's try not to offend anyone, we want to sell as much as possible" vs. "we must offend bigoted far-right American misogynists and be a force for change in the world, sales be damned" which is NoA today.
The difference being fear of reprisal vs open advocacy. Ok, I guess I can see that being a meaningful distinction.
Nintendo censorship from 20 years ago is completely different than post-Gamergate censorship even if the outcome is the same.
Honestly, hadn't played the originals in so long that I didn't even remember that. I only know this one because its basically the only thing that comes up as a direct example of what has changed.
The game went so deep under the radar nobody even talked about it to discuss the changes much.
I honestly hate the generic 3D plastic look of so many remakes, political bullshit aside. Same reason why I have no interest in playing the SMRPG remake.
Not that I think every remake of an old sprite game needs to be HD2D, but there are so many other approaches you could take, like cel-shading for instance.
Graphics aren't pixel art anymore, which is kinda dumb. some costumes changed. I don't remember what else.
You're probably getting downvoted because remembering a specific user's comment from six months ago is mentally ill behavior. I mean, maybe if he had said something particularly egregious to you specifically, but this is like overhearing a conversation at a grocery store and spending the next six months biding your time so you can make a snippy comment to a complete stranger. Surely you can make better use of your autism.
Are you retarded? The "woman test" refers to how devs won't use the word woman in their games and how they describe women as being "proud" and shit instead of "pretty".
What? That's not what the comment you linked to even says...?