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How bad did they fuck up the Advance Wars remakes?
posted 1 year ago by CaptainDudeguy 1 year ago by CaptainDudeguy +18 / -0

I was thinking about getting it but I seem to remember hearing that it got censored in some way. What exactly did they change? What all is wrong with it?

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– Adamrises 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Most of the in game censorship was just a few outfits being changed and a few lines being altered. I think Nell's was the worst with a longer skirt and sleeves added. While not great its probably also not world ending if your barometer for "ruined" is higher.

The marketing however was a complete clusterfuck, with them outright delaying it just because Ukraine happened and trying to gut any mention of war or combat from any marketing blurb.

But I've heard the gameplay itself is purely upgraded. The AI can no longer as blatantly cheat, so FoW maps aren't literally unfair, and many of the "need a guide to figure out" moments were made more direct.

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– altmehere 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0

was just a few outfits being changed and a few lines being altered

IMO this is enough to put a game firmly in the territory of don't play or at least don't pay. Too much ground has already been ceded.

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– Adamrises 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I don't disagree, but relatively its quite minor compared to what we normally discuss if we are being honest.

Like, Nell's is one of two I could find information on. And the other was just a dress color swap. And I couldn't even find the lines themselves to compare other than stuff like "Kanbei talks like an Imperial Japanese instead of a Samurai." Which doesn't set off any "woke" bells to me.

So again, if that's enough for you there it is. It was enough for me after the Ukraine thing.

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– Vivs3rdSock 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

with them outright delaying it just because Ukraine happened and trying to gut any mention of war or combat from any marketing blurb.

So you're saying they're a bunch of spineless cowards only caring about The Current Thing™ despite there being ongoing conflicts around the world that not only have nothing to do with Ukraine or other wars making the news, but also preceding both.

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– Adamrises 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yeah it was pretty pathetic all around, and ironically is probably why the game failed. It got delayed so long that everyone who might have cared forgot about it. I surely did.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Which is interesting because even on the GBA version, even 20 years ago, the US got a longer skirt and covered up arms for Nell. Of course, some people still want to keep giving big N the benefit of the doubt...

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– deleted 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0
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– SR388-SAX 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Yeah, I don't have any problem with a motivation of "we want to avoid controversy and just sell shit."

I do have a problem with, "we have to cover her up because we're objectifying her to the male gaze!"

NoA used to do the former. Now they are more likely to do the latter.

Motives matter.

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– misogynegro 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Especially because with the latter, most of the people decrying "objectification" in games are big supporters of Twitch thots and music videos being borderline porn. It's literally just pure spite for the audience disguised as ideology.

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I don't have any problem with a motivation of "we want to avoid controversy and just sell shit."

I do have a problem with, "we have to cover her up because we're objectifying her to the male gaze!"

These are the same thing though.

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– MLGS 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Nintendo censorship from 20 years ago is completely different than post-Gamergate censorship even if the outcome is the same.

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– Adamrises 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Honestly, hadn't played the originals in so long that I didn't even remember that. I only know this one because its basically the only thing that comes up as a direct example of what has changed.

The game went so deep under the radar nobody even talked about it to discuss the changes much.

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