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Another example of me having to check the bloody date of a post as I saw this popping up in steam. People are already calling it out but they already had a project they attempted called Dust 514 and it was an absolute flop, now it seems to try and inject some life into EVE they've decided to go with an extraction shooter.
It's a shame really, because I could totally have gone for an FPS set in the EVE universe, especially if the FPS gameplay made a difference to the overall game in a significant way. It would be really cool if maybe it was some kind of grand strategy style setup and you had the ships providing logistics etc. for the ground troops or something like that but no. Despite it being totally doable in the modern era devs are just being absolute meh with every release.
If this was 12ish years ago I would be interested in anything eve related. As it stands Astrox Imperium is the closest I've got to anything eve related.
Lol even. But to be fair I don't recall Dust 514 actually being bad, just very poorly timed.
I don't know if you've ever played EVE but I can tell you how that goes:
Edit: I wonder if this is actually a reaction to Star Citizen.
Oh believe me I played EVE Online back in the day unsurprisingly because it's an autist thing. I quickly started realising how riddled with exploits the whole game was and you would inevitably get bombarded by fanboi comments if you even dared to bring up the issue of balance.
One thing that's really noticeable about the EVE Online fanbase is it's very cult-like on par with the kind of fervour that Star Citizen had and I really liked the idea of Star Citizen. Now both projects are barely clinging on and it's only because of the fanatics they haven't gone bankrupt yet so they're squeezing them dry with false promises. The game EVE Online players gush about simply doesn't exist no matter how much they try to flame you for pointing that out.
In case your wondering, there's a shit ton of exploits in the game, yes there's a cutthroat economy and fleet battles but it's all being abused by turbo autists with 20+ accounts farming the fuck out of everything for 0.0 warfare and making sure new players have zero chance of having access to anything late game.
Eve Online is dying, and has been dying for a decade, because the present crop of devs don't know what fun is.
Namely, not PvE. If you want a game for "make line go up" there have always been better choices. Eve was about the emergent gameplay of a world with barely any rules besides "don't hack the game".
Ironically given that Eve was founded by people who missed the way Ultima Online was before the Trammel update, the game turned into much worse of a carebear catering experience.
The irony of the term 'carebear' is that the 0.0 types were and still are the biggest fucking carebears of all because all they do is sit in null space taking advantage of exploits in the economy previously mentioned. As a result 'pvp' is nothing more than giant blockades of douchebags with multi-accounts waiting for some hapless retard to come along so they can gank them rather than having any real stand up fight. The more I poked around the game and realised that's what was going on late game I simply ended up quitting.
Here I thought I'd make my point by talking about "make line go up".
The nullsec guys are complete tools, yes. But the bulk of the playerbase still squats in hisec mining and ratting, and that atrocious isk fountain of incursions. Fully half of them are afk at all times to boot. You can bump them into another cell for God's sakes and nothing, because they're logged in to not play the game, just trying to make line go up.
It's no surprise when they quit. Because nothing about any of that is actually fun. What little fun was left in Eve consisted of finding inventive ways to kill those people.
I was a lowsec and wormhole player myself, with several awox and suicider alts. As far as I'm concerned that's the actual game.
I hadn't the programming knowledge especially to express myself back in the day when it came to this but who do you think are the fuckers squatting in high sec? It's inevitably going to be the same 0.0 players with a bunch of high sec mining and trading accounts. I think this is a big part of why CCP pretty much opened up about multiple accounts which I can't remember if they were 100% against back in the day but it was certainly frowned upon.
What's hilarious about this tactic by the no life try hards of this game it's the people bitching about carebears are going to be from some 0.0 alliance who know a particular enemy alliance is relying quite heavily on high sec farming for their economy. It's pretty cringe meta kind of like how when you see gamers in a PvP scenario trying to get something nerfed they keep losing to.
I know who the fuckers squatting in hisec are. I spent half a decade killing them. The nullsec guys mostly play the economy and rat in nullsec because the bounties for it are too high.
They're not the same people as the afk miners. Nullsec corps don't need Plagioclase and Veldspar.
I spent a long time killing both groups. They're not the same people. That's just cope tbh. And the people criticizing carebears are different people too.
We might be talking from too old a point of view. I heard they did mineral redistribution rebalance a couple years back. It looks like trit might be non-existent in null now.
Edit: Yeah, I was right. Null can't get Trit or Nocxium anymore. So they've got to buy or farm it themselves in HS/LS. There is some incentive for them to sit on HS rocks.
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Fellow CODE. enforcer? Or a goon?
Nah. Null mining would be way more profitable. They had moons and better ice. Plus you can have someone rorq with you AND have you friends to hot drop on anyone who tries to pewpew.
High sec "afk" miners were more likely people like me who went "My freighter alt is doing fuck all while I run WH relic sites. Might as well train into an Orca and make a couple ISK on the other monitor."
Yeah. That sounds right. Personally, I never went for the nullbear farming stuff. Would just grab a cloaky to go play in wormholes with the other people who wanted to play a space game outside the umbrellas. It was so much fun to listen to null cry about the Blackout when they had to re-learn what d-scan was.
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One of the important things to the FPS of star citizen isn't as much the gunplay but the zero G EVA and ship interiors.
I played Elite for quite a while before I jumped ship (after too many time getting annoyed at engineering) and saw the influx of players when Elite added space legs but it was a land and teleport out of your ship.
Having ship interiors and zero G allows for varied interactions between players, from doing silly things to the military LARPers doing a try hard ship invasion.
Though Star citizen still needs the game part built on top the EVA, interiors and the soft death system are important to the FPS spaceman fantasy.
Though from what I heard of the pirate elements of the game too many people fly ships without any kind of FPS gear, guess there isn't a cure for stupid.
Lmao they're still trying that after they released Dust 514 on PS3 a week before the launch of the PS4?
Dust 514 was good though. I'm disappointed by this new shit and wanting to force a subscription
I remember playing Dust 514 back in the day, it was alright as a lot of console players were interested in the EVE universe and lore but didn't have the time that the PC guys did so a drop in FPS where you could support the PC side by being boots on the ground seemed great.
Unfortunately the time of release was bad, the state it first was released was confusing for all new players that when you died you actually lost equipment (like in the EVE universe) and it just felt like an isolated pocket not really connected to EVE.
I doubt they learnt enough lessons to correct that now, putting it as an extraction shooter seems like the safest choice as then there's less to worry about compared to a PvP multiplayer. The only way I can see it not being DOA is if they combine the FPS portion into a way to capture ships or stations on EVE without blowing them up, that would turn this into something worth investing time in.
Initially saw the trailer during one of those countless fests YouTube keeps recommending.
I originally thought it looked okay, but then remembered Dust 514 and how that failed. The general concept could have been cool, and like you said, definitely would have been neat if the FPS missions made a difference to the larger game world, but basically it's just more instanced FPS combat that looks extremely samey and uninspired. Plus, nothing really ties into the larger, emergent EVE experience, so the entire hook that they could have used to lure people in makes it all pointless.
I tried it for one match, it was lame and boring.
It's available for testing? Didn't know that but thanks for letting us know.